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The EU debate - Part III

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  1. Bodinki

    Bodinki You're welcome Forum Moderator

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    Have to weigh in on the Scotland thing.
    1) I'd completely different. Scotland is a part of our country, a region with more autonomy than say Bristol has within our sovereignty but a part of our country nonetheless. The EU is not a sovereignty that the UK is part of, its a union.

    2) The Scots voted to stay in the UK that does not mean they get to threaten secession every time the democratic process doesn't go their way.

    3) They will not be getting a 2nd referendum in the near future, nor IMO would they vote to break from UK even if they did IMO.
     
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  2. Bodinki

    Bodinki You're welcome Forum Moderator

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    The fact that you claim to have forgotten is not a defence. Try it in court. "Oh now I have seen the evidence I guessni did murder that guy. Sorry I forgot"
     
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    Can you post the links to the polls that state the Scots are 'OK' with Brexit then please, cheers <ok>

    As a Nation within a Union they are having Brexit inflicted on them, as they didn't choose it, same as they didn't choose the Tories.

    The SNP won the election within their Nation, so that's democratic. The Nation of Scotland didn't choose Brexit, and are having to live with the decision that was seen over the line by the likes of Sunderland, Hull and Barnsley together with the feckless
     
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    Scotland was an independent country that was forced into a union in the early 18th century.
     
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    So 3 hundred years ago they were independent? And.....do you think Mercia and Wessex should vye for their independence too?
     
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    That Dull Hull really must have a very empty life.
     
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    You're rephrasing the question again. It's a poor habit and not helpful.

    https://yougov.co.uk/news/2016/07/30/brexit-fails-boost-support-scottish-independence/

    https://yougov.co.uk/news/2016/09/01/davidson-now-more-popular-sturgeon-scotland/
     
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  8. Tobes

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    Scotland is a country not a region

    It forms part of the 4 countries that make up the UK

    The semantics don't alter the simple facts, they're having something foisted on them that they didn't choose - as a country
     
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    Not a great analogy.

    Scotland was an independent nation with its own Kings and Queens. In fact, King James 1st was in fact James 6th of Scotland.

    They were forced into a union 300 years ago, which many have objected to ever since,
     
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    But not the majority at the last referendum. :emoticon-0105-wink:
     
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    You shouldn't display your stupidity so blatantly.
    Murder is something that depends on your state of mind at the time.
    Forgetting about it later is irrelevant to the offence
    Now you are talking about if I deliberately lied
    My contention is that I did not because I have forgotten.
    I think you are too stupid to even talk to and I'm putting you on ignore too.
     
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  12. NSIS

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    As I've pointed out, polls are one thing, actual votes are another.

    Scotland voted some 68% to remain part of he EU <ok>
     
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    Mercia and Wessex were also independent kingdoms with their own kings and queens until they were subjugated and merged to form England <doh>
     
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    <laugh>

    please log in to view this image
     
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    <laugh> what a ****ing melt
     
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    But they voted to remain part of the UK when they got the option. The EU referendum was a UK one. That's how democracy works.
     
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    As suspected, neither poll states that Scotland is 'OK' with Brexit

    Those polls were about a second referendum for independence and **** all to do with their view on Brexit

    They're also months old, and way before the Tories slapped 'hard Brexit' being likely, on the table.

    What was that about rephrasing questions again Worzel?
     
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    Un-****ing-believable!!...<laugh>

    Arrogant delusion of epic proportions. Just like his girth!..
     
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  20. Stan

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    Your fault for being a loony lefty Remoaner.

    Pete gets on with all sensible Leavers.
     
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