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The EU debate - Part III

Discussion in 'The Premier League' started by Jürgenmeiʃter, Sep 6, 2016.

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  1. Tobes

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    You seem to have misplaced your facade
     
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  2. DMD

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    Where does he say he dislikes blacks?
     
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    I never said - until this point - that he dislikes Blacks Worzel.

    However, given that he hates the fact that darker skinned Brits are diluting the white majority, I'd say it's highly likely that he's no fan.
     
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    Right, so the claim he dislikes blacks was a fiction. I'll lump the 'afraid' bit in as a failed claim too.

    So, turning it on its head, if a policy resulted in a reduction in black involvement in some scheme or other, would it be acceptable?
     
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  5. Tobes

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    I never said he dislikes blacks Worzel.

    I said he was an obvious racist, which he is, which makes it highly likely he dislikes blacks by definition. The fact that he's afraid of the birth rate of non whites is beyond doubt.

    Some scheme or other? What the **** are you trying to shoe horn in now? Spit it out.
     
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    I dont like Whities
     
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    It's a simple enough question. I suspect you've realised that answering it would poke a wee hole in your character assessment. And you still can't seem to grasp the strawman position you use so often Worzel.
     
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    What's amusing here is how you've tried to use semantics to somehow attack those who have called out a poster who hates Islam and has an issue with the white mans massive majority being diluted by Brits with brown skin

    I have no idea what you're referring to or trying to shoe horn into the debate, so spit it out you tedious twat
     
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    That's a bit of an oxymoron don't you think? I say all of this as a 2nd generation immigrant, my parent's aren't British, and because of that my upbringing wasn't British, it's highly likely that any children I have won't be 100% culturally British due to certain ways that I go about life and what I pass down to them through those habits. I will try my best though, even with self loathing, low testosterone commies like you standing in my way.

    Again, you keep talking about this 'massive white majority' as if it is completely unimpeachable, too big to fail, but the statistics tell us a different story. And I'll say again, all you have to do is look across the Atlantic to see the results of taking elements from all across the world and clashing them together like a child with toy cars to see how much of a failure it is.

    Yet again, you fail to answer any of my questions and go off on a little rant that adds nothing.

    And what do you base that off? Is it the declining birth rates that tell you white people won't go extinct? Is it the demographics? Is it the ageing society, which you previously mentioned, that will knock off quite a few percentage points from the 'massive white majority' that No Testosterone @Tobes keeps mentioning within the next 20 years? Is it globalisation, which you lot seem to be heavily in support of, which aims to destroy borders and expose populations to their own demise, after all, there's not as many white folk going off to live in Africa and the middle east is there?

    My issue is, that I have been given a gift from my ancestors, this gift is called our cultures and traditions - our nation. They fought hard for it, a lot died for it, and for what? To pass that greatness down to the next generation, and for them to then pass it down too, and so on. I have no right to take those gifts, no right to take all of that blood, sweat, tears. All of the wars, murders, rapes and enslavements, no right whatsoever to take all of that sacrifice and suffering to go on and squander it. No right at all.
     
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    He's a tedious, odious, bigoted, racist ****, mate.

    Like you said, if he wasn't trying to back up his racist mate, why get involved?...
     
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    The fact that you're a second generation white immigrant makes your view even more laughable.

    Skin colour has **** all to do with the retention of Britsh culture and traditions you absolute helmet

    You weren't brought up with Britsh traditions by your own admission, but now you feel that you're a proud defender of the British culture and that black Brits somehow aren't.

    You snivelling racist ****
     
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  12. DMD

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    I haven't attacked anyone Worzel. <doh>

    I'm pointing out that you continue to use the same style of rhetoric that the nazi's used. You've tried to demonise by making assumptions, and avoiding the points raised.

    I haven't defended or opposed his view, I was trying to clarify the claims others made, which so far you've shown to be empty.

    It really is a simple question, turn the situation on it's head so that it was black numbers being decreased, and then decide if that would invoke the same reaction from you.
     
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    Yes, I find it very laughable, incredibly laughable that it takes a 2nd generation non Brit to defend your own country...

    Keep telling yourself that, I suppose we should just not talk about how 3rd generation immigrants start to revert back to the cultures and traditions of the countries they emigrated from. And then we sit around and wonder why radical Islam is such a problem amongst younger Muslims...
     
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  14. DMD

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    and yet not one single time, despite many, many requests, have you been able to support your claims. In fact, you've owned up to being a bigot yourself. <doh>
     
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    You'll get the same treatment I get from him, he can never answer those types of questions because it completely destroys his stance. In fairness though, he's all ready unintentionally alluded to what he would think when he said something about all those honkies going over to America to slaughter the natives or something like that... 'like'.
     
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    I am not sure what you mean by "extinction of an entire race and culture".
    What race is being made extinct?
    Or is at risk of being made extinct?

    Changing culture and traditions is part of life. Every culture and tradition has has changed through the ages. Our traditional Christmas is only 120 yrs old and has continually changed over the course of that time. Our food, working patterns, education systems, health care, accessibility to the arts ( theatre, music, TV, film) and sporting culture has been constantly changing.

    As for wanting to see the continuation of a great country, surely that depends on your perspective as to what is great about a country.
    Things like slavery, war, supporting tyranny and dominating countries (like India, the Caribbean, Africa etc) were shameful acts perpetrated by most countries leaders throughout history. Other things like the advance in medicine, communication, the ability to travel, the advances in sciences, the engineering achievements etc are all something to admire. I do not see what immigration will stop the positives.
     
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    Watching football.

    Pal, everybody here knows what you are. It's blindingly obvious despite your pathetic attempts at deflection.

    Please refer my description of you in my last post
     
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  18. Tobes

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    Defend my own country from what? Dark skin?

    You've admitted you're a white immigrant and your upbringing wasn't 'British' and yet you are now proclaiming to be a proud defender of Britishness and your 'concern" is supposedly the culture and tradition of this country.

    Whilst at the same time claiming that non white British born 2nd and 3rd generation Brits are a threat to those very traditions and culture - based solely on their skin colour.

    ...and then you're straight back to your hatred of Islam.
     
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  19. Star of David Bardsley

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    You're like a religious nutter outside a shopping centre shouting through a megaphone that the devil is coming.

    Yes, birth rates are declining as is the case in most advanced economies. It isn't zero or close to that so no one is going to be extinct. They'll most likely decline amongst ethnic minorities if/when those minorities become wealthier on average if history is anything to go by.

    The rest of your post is just a bizarre rant about nothing. Even more bizarre if you really are a second generation immigrant.
     
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    http://labourlist.org/2013/11/there...s-on-immigration-because-no-one-is-listening/
    There’s no point in Labour “apologising” or “admitting mistakes” on immigration – because no-one is listening

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-18539472
    Miliband shifts immigration policy, saying Labour 'got it wrong'

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...mistake-on-immigration-admits-Jack-Straw.html
    Labour made a 'spectacular mistake' on immigration, admits Jack Straw
    Former Home Secretary admits opening Britain's borders to migrants in 2004 was a 'spectacular mistake'

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/gen...ion-it-is-not-prejudiced-to-be-concerned.html

    Ed Miliband: Labour got it wrong on immigration – it is not prejudiced to be concerned
     
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