The EU debate - Part III

Evidence they are not?

 

what has the Chinese deaths got to do with fascism? you can't stop using the word even though you dont have a clue about what it means

 

RCL: why dont you start an "I hate fascists thread" and then you can drone on as much as you want without boring everybody else?
I wonder what will happen when you learn another word - "I hate barbecues"?

 

It's like a game to you isn't it?

Genocide - a fun game for all the family

 

I don't believe for a second that you hate barbecues Pete. It's a fairly safe bet that you've trampled children to death to get to the front of a barbecue queue.

 

Foster mother tells of horror when she discovered ’12-year-old Afghan refugee orphan’ she cared for was a 21-year-old jihadi
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-refugee-orphan-cared-21-year-old-jihadi.html
"A woman opened her heart and her door to a 12-year-old boy who had fled the horrors of war in Afghanistan after losing his parents - or so she thought.
In reality, not only was the boy in her care, Jamal, almost a decade older than she had been duped into believing, but he also had Taliban and child abuse material on his phone.
A dentist's check found his age to actually be around 21 and a subsequent investigation uncovered the shocking content on his mobile, according to the Sun.
However, the news did not come as a huge surprise to his foster mother, who gave her name only as Rosie, who had not only been extremely suspicious of his developed facial hair - which led to him being thrown off a bus as he looked too old for a child ticket - but also other characteristics.
She took Jamal to a climbing centre, where he displayed upper body strength far beyond his supposed years and also was able to completely strip a rifle at a shooting range.
While in her care, he shared a room with three children aged between 12 and 14.
Rosie told the paper's Nigel Bunyan and Chris Pollard: 'It’s ridiculous how everybody else could see it but not the social workers.'
Although she could not confirm if he was a terrorist, she was adamant he had spent time in a training camp.
She added that his last words to her were 'I’ll kill you and I know where your children are.'
Jamal has since reportedly been turned down for asylum after being arrested for assault.
It follows fierce criticism of 'children' being allowed into Britain ahead of the demolition of the Calais jungle appearing to be well into adulthood.
Refugees, who the Government claims are aged 14 to 17, arrived at the UK Visas and Immigration office in Croydon, south London, by coach as part of a fast-track system to move youngsters from the French migrant camp.
After photographs of the refugees arriving were published, Conservative MP David Davies wrote on Twitter: 'These don't look like 'children' to me. I hope British hospitality is not being abused.'
Officials insist the migrants have undergone rigorous interviews and document checks to establish they are aged under 18."

 

I see Pete is cherry picking his Daily Mail articles this morning and has overlooked the articles I posted

 

Bizarrely he is critising war figureS for not being accurate while being absolute that he is right. He ignores his factual inaccurate double accounting mistake and complains that the figure for deaths in a 6 yrs long war are "a wild guess" and dismisses the figure of 95m deaths.

As for wondering what Chinese deaths in world war 2 has to do with fascism ... as my 13 yr old daughter would say "OMG , seriously".

Anyway...just back into my hotel room in Brighton (were visiting my uni dauhter) where we were woken and evacuated for a fire drill...I blame the EU looney lefties health and safety ****ers!

 

Are you saying that an estimate of between 20 million and 54 million is accurate?
what was my "factual inaccurate double accounting mistake"?
are you saying the figures for deaths are not wild guesses?
I pointed out that the figure of 95m deaths seemed to be plucked from thin air - any sensible person would say that when they give a figure of between 20m and 54m
The Japanese invasion of China happened well before the second world war and had nothing to do with German expansionism. Are you able to justify why you think it had anything to do with fascism? Maybe next week you will blame it on barbecues!?

 

Out of interest Fat Man, how many deaths do you consider to be sensible and reasonable for the advancement of fascism?

 

That article suggests me some young people in Europe are pissed off and perhaps anti-establishment in general rather than anti-EU.

Those I know in Ireland, Spain, Italy, Holland, Germany and others are more pro-EU than people of the same age I know here in general. Partly because those countries have always valued being part of a more united Europe more than we have and partly because young people in those countries make use of opportunties like Erasmus much more than we do here where so few people bother to learn a second language. Some are still getting to grips with their first.

 

Kustard wants Erasmus deported. He sounds like a troublemaker.

 

It's a shame more people don't study languages. Just living in another country for a bit helps make you a more rounded person IMO especially at that age. Getting to a conversational level of Spanish isn't difficult and would help a lot of grads stand out a bit from all the others.

The problem is mainly that there's so little emphasis on languages in schools however. Every kid is forced to do sciences until at least 14 still I believe. Languages (and some other subjects) would be far more useful IMO.

 

Both my kids have had to do a GCSE language as part of the governments EBacc measure of state schools

 

Kids do have to learn a language, both mine do French

 

Good. That wasn't the case relatively recently when I was that age. There's still too few going on to do languages after GCSE and far too few studying abroad.

 

They must sound like the policeman out of Allo Allo.

 

3 yrs of French between 1978 and 1981 left me being able to say ...
Cat, dog, hello, goodbye, yes, no, cheese, blackboard, table and I could count to 20...
Needless to say I didn't take it up.

Wish I had learned another language like my daughters have. They work really hard at it and one plans to work abroad later after university.

 

Which one of the prime reasons why 81% of those still in full time education and 73% of 18-24 yr olds voted Remain.

As they see the benefit of free movement and unlike the xenophobes and little Englanders - who see it as a one way street - they wanted to retain that benefit of EU membership i.e. being able to relocate without the need to visas, work permits et al.

 

Nothing stopping you from learning a language.