the thing about this viewpoint is that it is easy to say as it is 'someone else' who is getting murdered Most people I know who are victims of murder (as in relatives not the actual victim) tend to want the person hung etc In fact there is 2 families who were anti death penalty who have had loved ones murdered, in one case it is clear cut who did it in the other there were multiple perpetrators. These families would string the people up themselves What you have to understand is that the families of the victims have no closure, and if and when the people are released its another kick in the face for them everyone here is looking at it from the criminals perspective, but look at the lives of those whose loved one is murdered
But you know that hardly anyone gets the key thrown away. Even serial killers and mass murderers are now being released early, I think that's why so many people want the death penalty reintroduced, because Life seldom means life.
not really, just proves how thick we are as humans despite our 'advancements' there are still people who cannot comprehend mathematics or physics doesnt make them irrelevant
Prison sentencing and the death penalty are two separate issues. I'm against the death penalty, but feel that prison is currently not a harsh enough environment and that sentences are too short.
Camus philosophised at great length about the death penalty and it was central to his novella, The Stranger. That's why I recommended him. Although obviously aware of the Hume and Locke, I am not overly familiar with their work. What was their take on the death penalty?
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I'm not sure that it's a true punishment, it doesn't appear to act as a deterrent in the countries that have it and the idea of killing the wrong person appals me.
So we kill the odd innocent person. Realistically, how many people inside for murder genuinely didn't do it? 1 in a 1000. Probably more, let's be honest. Even at those odds then it's not that big a deal. The ones offed unfairly would just have to put it down to bad luck.
thanks for that reason i asked is because for most people it is not the death penalty per se that they disagree with, its more to do with getting it wrong or just what they believe would be 'morally' wrong I do agree with what you say in some respects. The countries that do have it have it a bit too airy fairy imo. or are so corrupt that money will get an innocent killed I think that is why i would like to see it introduced only if the cogs around it were properly in place my motivation is not about saving money etc. I just think the current system is too 'cushy' (i have some knowledge) and is set up for criminals to want to be in there I also think the likes of the ripper, huntley etc would be better off dead for their own sakes as well as everyone else
as i say though if the punishment was there for those that got it wrong, then this would be reduced further Also its not like innocemts dont get killed anyway, de menezes? that guy at the protest? I think the innocents getting killed is quite a feeble argument in all honesty
Fancy volunteering yourself as a sacrifice then, TFWNN? I agree that the current system isn't good enough, but killing people isn't the answer, in my opinion. It doesn't seem to work, for a start.
we are not talking of sacrifice here. we are talking about death to the likes of huntley, sutcliffe etc which probably is more humane than being locked up until they die Capital punishment did work at one time as a deterrant. especially when grown 'tough guys' cried like babes I am all for alternative punishments and the death penalty. i would rather see a vandal getting six lashes across his arse in public than community service
My point about a sacrifice is that someone innocent being put to death is effectively acting as a sacrifice for this system. Capital punishment doesn't work as a deterrent. It prevents re-offending, admittedly!
lol. i get your point, but i have been arguing about safety nets so that a 'sacrifice' isnt needed. Also if you look at the miscarriages of justice they have involved clear cut evidence that was 'hidden'. My point is that should this occur then those responsible get the same having said that I think its a miscarriage when people get let off on technicalities. Stephen Lawrence case etc
