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The EU debate - Part III

Discussion in 'The Premier League' started by Jürgenmeiʃter, Sep 6, 2016.

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  1. petersaxton

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    You said: “The reason we don't have enough hospitals, doctors and schools, is partly down to an ageing population, partly down to an increasing indigenous population and mostly down to lack of investment from Govt to keep up with this. Immigration has very little impact overall.”
    Why resort to lying?
    I was right when I quoted you as saying that immigration has less of an effect than the change in population despite the opposite being the case.
    I think this shows that I am being taken seriously by all honest people and it's only the liars who are complaining.
     
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    I'm going to guess that the accountant isn't going to just say yes to this! <laugh>
     
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    You are only taken seriously by your butcher.
     
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  4. petersaxton

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    they wont have more money in a lot of the cases. They will have less because many of the people who legally avoid taxes are able to move assets and income around the world if they think that their tax bill is too high
     
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    You've just quoted me and confirmed what I was initially saying about you misquoting me <laugh>

    I'll say it again, immigration has less of an effect on the NHS than the lack of investment from Govt. (as my quote says)
     
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    "take back control" - Kustard 2016
    "make America great again" - some American, white trash simpleton 2016
     
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  7. petersaxton

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    Did you actually watch the debate? He didn't say he wouldn't commit to the result. He wasn't even asked that. He was asked if he would accept the result. He said that he would look at what happened at the time. How can he accept that there's no election fraud before the day most people vote?
     
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    The legal tax avoidance is just one part of that £119bn figure though. The UK should tighten up on the loopholes, simply using the excuse that 'they'll take their money' somewhere else isn't good enough. Most of the Tax black hole though is down to big business paying very little or no Corporation tax. And what was George Orsborne's solution to this ? Lower it further so that it encourages more Corps to pay at least some <doh>
     
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    And both campaigns were funded by Russia. Putin's bitches.
     
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    Stop trying to split hairs, you obese Nazi!..
     
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    No, that's why I asked the question Pete. Do you think he would look at any potential election fraud if he wins ?
     
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    Can't you even comprehend what you say now?
    You said: “The reason we don't have enough hospitals, doctors and schools, is partly down to an ageing population, partly down to an increasing indigenous population .... Immigration has very little impact overall.”
    I know you said about investment but you also said it was partly down to an ageing population and increasing indigenous population
    and said that immigration has very little impact overall
    this is despite immigration having twice the impact of an ageing population increasing indigenous population
     
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    Are you just basing this on the number of people?
     
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    The ageing population is likely to have a bigger impact than economic migrants given they are generally young and healthy whereas indigenous obese OAPs like yourself are being kept alive unnaturally by the wonders of expensive modern drugs and techniques.
     
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    It seems that you are the one struggling with comprehension pete. If you read my quote properly it says that an ageing population, increasing population and immigration has an effect on the NHS, but it is mostly down to lack of investment.

    Don't take my word for it, the OECD have said that Hospitals are now so short-staffed and underequipped that people are also dying needlessly because of a chronic lack of investment.
     
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    I do .... not that you will see it of course. If you can't beat us because you are wrong you just put us on ignore.
     
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    Although he's since said he'll accept the result if he wins so he's happy to look ahead on that basis.

    No surprise you are a supporter of his. He's an odious, bigoted failure as well.

    Had he put daddy's money in the stock market instead of investing it in failed enterprises, he'd be far richer than he is today.
     
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    One of the legal ways of reducing tax is capital allowances. This encourages business to make investments in this country. So you would be quite happy for businesses to go elsewhere and pay a small amount of tax there rather than less in this country? We would then lose out on VAT, property and employment taxes. You seem to be looking at one tax and not the totality of taxes.
     
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    You said that immigration has very little effect overall. Yet you bigged up the increases in population from an ageing population and births despite them having less of an effect than immigration.
     
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