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Off Topic SNP's Nicola Sturgeon announces new independence referendum bill

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  1. johnsonsbaby

    johnsonsbaby Well-Known Member

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    That's surprised me too mate.

    I agree she won't be pushing it but she has no option but to look like she's doing something. Also, their economy couldn't handle independence and she knows that.
     
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  2. Solid Air 2

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    Fixed
     
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  3. Milk not bear jizz

    Milk not bear jizz Grasser-In-Chief

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    Here and now, maybe they would have more of a chance. Give it a year or two and have the heat of the moment die off and I think they would vote to stay. Cooler heads usually prevail given time to think.
     
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  4. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    I think the point on scottish servitude is well made.. thats how the SNP would see it.

    Really the immediate question is when will the falling pound really pinch the pockets of the hoy paloy.

    unilever are in dispute with tesco right now to put up prices so when do we see inflation rise and some real effects?

    The two years down the road stuff are well... yeah whatever... but nobody has felt any real pain yet IMO
     
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  5. Jeremy Hillary Boob

    Jeremy Hillary Boob GC Thread Terminator

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    Okay, let's flip that - what's the proportion that voted to leave the Uk compared to those who voted to leave the EU?
     
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  6. johnsonsbaby

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    You're probably right and given what tobes has just said about the current polls maybe I've read too much into their desire to stay in Europe when actually that comes second to their desire to stay part of the UK.
     
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  7. Jeremy Hillary Boob

    Jeremy Hillary Boob GC Thread Terminator

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    Wholeheartedly agree. My point is though is that I keep hearing, on these boards, the workplace, the right-wing press, that another referendum is some sort of effrontery to democracy. The Scots can have a referendum every year if they want, that's the constitution of the Assembly. If the Scots don't like that then they can boot the Nats out of the Assembly. And yes, I know technically parliament has to assent to a referendum, but there would be the mother of all constitutional crises if parliament did reject such a mandate.
     
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  8. Solid Air 2

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    The SNP had an overall majority in the Scottish parliament but lost it this year in the election which suggests a growing proportion of Scots are worried about the domestic policies of the SNP - not surprising considering the £15 billion budget deficit they now have
     
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    Milk not bear jizz Grasser-In-Chief

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    They DO love us...<hug>
     
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  10. Solid Air 2

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    don't agree they can have one every year if they want and i'm not convinced there would be a constitutional crisis as there should be a decent distance between them, The difference here is the EU question since that figured heavily in the independence referendum.
     
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    I thought tesco and unilever had sorted their problem. Fook em anyway, marmite! and have you seen what low fat mayonaise is actually made from? Dirty fecking batards!
     
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    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    I dunno... i heard they were pulling everything out.

    Unilevr make a massive amount of things so once they do every other company can go.. well. They did why not us.
     
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  14. Jeremy Hillary Boob

    Jeremy Hillary Boob GC Thread Terminator

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    I'll say again. this is a bit like Lorretta's right to have a baby, even though she can't (where will the foetus gestate, in a shoe box?). Would be utterly insane right now for Crankie to call a referendum, but in two years when the crippling effects of our divorce start hitting home and the EU makes pleasant noises towards them.... Point is, it's up to them ( and the Welsh and Ulster as to when and how they hold as many referendum as their democratically elected assemblies say.
     
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  15. Tobes

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    The reason people haven't yet felt the pain of the crashing pound, is due largely to the supply agreements that the supermarkets have with their suppliers. Most of the pain currently is being taken in the supply chain.

    However, that is unsustainable and as deals are renewed prices of imported goods will rise (plus goods manufactured using imported raw materials)

    There's currently. 16-19% 'lag' going on, it'll bite soon enough, as more than 50% of our food is imported
     
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  16. Jeremy Hillary Boob

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    My Brexit voting sister actually said to me during a trip to Liverpool in July "Where's this financial meltdown you promised?"
     
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  17. Tobes

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    I bet you just gave her 'the look' <laugh>
     
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    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    <applause> good point. Id not even thought of it. Any sensible company wold have hedged at 1.5 the day before or at least then it levelled and recovered slightly.
     
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    Poke in the eye would've been more appropriate.
     
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  20. Milk not bear jizz

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    Did you tell her I can get Wensleydale in the US dirt cheap now? You should.
     
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