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The EU debate - Part III

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  1. The Zlatan

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    Trying to justify an increase in population with the excuse "muh students!!" doesn't answer the query about inner city schools being burdened by kids that can't speak a word of English. You'll have to forgive me for not reading all of your previous posts, it's quite tiresome trying to meander through nonsensical arguments about certain technicalities, plus the fact that a lot of your posts are made of insults and not much else. You still haven't answered my question from yesterday.
     
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  2. Star of David Bardsley

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    Being blinkered is believing what the Mail and Pete tell you. I base my opinions on my own experiences and data beyond the net number of migrants which means nothing in isolation. Your post just reads like a comment on a DM article rather than being based on anything meaningful.
     
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  3. Stan

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    Kustard is one of those people who voted Leave as he'd been convinced by Nige that it was a way to keep the Muslims out. You may as well direct your questions at your next deposit in the khazi.
     
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  4. Tobes

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    71k net, not 333k net.

    As students will be paying customers of our higher education system....

    Inner city schools 'burdened' by foreigners who need to to be taught English.....and who's parents contribute to the National purse.

    Your question from yesterday made **** all sense, much like the rest of your poorly disguised racist ramblings. Now **** off before I call @luvgonzo in <laugh>
     
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  5. Bodinki

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    Well I just get the feeling when some people hear the word "Immigrant" they immediately picture some brown guy with nothing but a pair of sandals, a back pack and a bottle of water.
    EU Immigrants, more often than not, probably wouldn't be in that situation. Europe is a first world continent.
    Most of them will probably have at least some money, they will be educated (even if its a state education), and are probably moving here for work purposes.
     
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  6. The Prime Minister

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    As you are a young lad, your experiences are quite limited, I recommend you go and travel around the UK and you will see the problems people face. Then you will understand why they dont want mass immigration.
     
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    Its 0.5% a year which is about half the rate of increase in the baby boom in the early 1950s. Or were we being 'swamped' by our own offspring then?
     
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    That doesn't fit the narrative that people like Kustard have fallen for though mate.

    They saw that picture of Nige standing in front of his racist poster, and decided we were 'full' and being overrun by Romanian ATM thieves
     
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    My point is, "mass immigration" is too broad a term to say whether it benefits the country or not. I'd hazard a guess I've seen more of the country than you having lived in the three main UK cities and elsewhere. For someone as limited as you to be so condescending is quite something.

    Yes if it was 300,000 people arriving with nothing and having to be cared for by the state it would obviously be a serious issue but it clearly isn't.
     
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    Exactly, unless he can show figures to prove that a large number of the 71k EU immigrants who are not students, then that figure is meaningless.
    Around 700k babies are born in the UK every year too. Babies don't pay taxes and just leech off the tax payer (their parents), so should we introduce breeding laws?
     
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    We'll need those babies in 20 years or so. Mass killing of pensioners and the economically unproductive is the only* way.

    *sarcasm in case it wasn't obvious enough, Kustard.
     
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  12. Tobes

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    The total number of EU migrants seeking employment in the UK was 168k in the last numbers published.

    The Torygraph put the figure at 600k - which was deliberately misleading, as it included all of those who were either retired or students.
     
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  13. The Zlatan

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    I don't care about any of that, that's not the conversation I'm having with you.

    If you live in England you should be able to speak English, how else will you integrate? Kids that can't speak English are a huge problem because it will lead to two different problems, either the teachers slowdown the entire class so that 'no child is left behind' or the kid that can't speak a word of English is left behind by themselves and then goes on to become a burden on society because they have no satisfactory education behind them. This problem goes much further than 1st generation immigrants which is how you like to try and portray it. And I don't think it's necessarily true that they contribute to the 'national purse', immigrants take out more than what they put back in to the tune of approximately £16bn each year. Is the future of our children really so disposable because it's perceived the country gets a bit of extra money with mass immigration? Are you really suggesting that we should destroy any potential that some kids have for sake of 'diversity and tolerance'?

    My question made perfect sense, you keep calling me a racist because I have a problem with Islam, so answer my question, can you change your race? Don't tie yourself in too much of knot trying to scuttle your way out of it. Or you could just ignore it again because you know your about to make a huge fool of yourself... again.
     
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  14. Bodinki

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    Its just that, I know its been a while since I went to school.
    But my kids attend school, as does my niece, and a lot of my friends kids.
    I cannot once remember any of the parent's complaining about Non English speaking German, French, Spanish and Greek kids impeding the class, that's all.

    When I was at school there was one kid who joined us in year 4 who couldn't speak English, he was Chinese. He was pretty much fluent in less than a year.
     
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    Care to post the stats that prove that EU immigrants cost the national purse £16bn p.a. net please

    As that's absolute jarg
     
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    What percentage of Brits moving to non-English speaking countries speak the local lingo when they arrive there?
     
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  17. Bodinki

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    While he is at it, ask him to point to that stat that shows these non English speaking kids are from EU countries.
     
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    Crack on then. @The Zlatan
     
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    I quite liked the line "you keep calling me racist because I have a problem with Islam".
     
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  20. The Prime Minister

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    How can mass immigration benefit anyone, without infrastructure in place?
    Schools struggle, hospitals struggle, doctors struggle, councils struggle.

    I have lived in many towns and cities in the Midlands and I travel a lot with my job, I see the pressures of mass migration, some very good, some very bad.

    The UK need control, thats all we ask. Bring in the skilled workers we need and keep out the unskilled.
     
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