Off Topic Lily Allen

Xenophobic AND misogynistic; yep, it's EGD/Blampey alright.

 

Oh just **** off you Cumtrumpet Little Englander.

 

If this is what the British attitude is, I'd ****ing go tomorrow. Even though you're (hopefully) joking, I'd say the people that should be deported are the British people who can't accept people of other nationalities. Send them over to another country and see how welcomed they'd be without jobs and money.

Doesn't matter where you were born, if you're a ****, you should get a taste of your own medicine.

 

Fortunately, a lot of migrants that get into this country stay in the London area. Thats where the money is I guess.

 

If I had a spare room, I'd offer it up to anybody who needed it until they got on their feet and could get a home for themselves. English or otherwise.

 

What if his 13 year old son suddenly rocked up one night too?

And what happens if they fail to get work?
Or if he was from a misogynistic culture that treated women as mere chattels?

 

If his son turned up, I'd find them somewhere to live together. If they won't get a job, it's no problem.

 

It would be OK if the other countries handed out housing and benefits and medical treatment without having contributed like we do.You need medical insurance to go to Ireland nowadays. They get treated here no questions asked.
Funny enough a lot of the people who come to this country are from,ones that don't make people from different cultures welcome. Yet as soon as they get here they start demanding we alter our ways to,accommodate theirs.

 

So who pays for where they will be living together, their food, health treatment etc if they are not working?

 

No problem to whom, old boy?
You or the State?
Look I haven't even mentioned if he was from a culture that advocated FGM or other beliefs we western liberals find culturally incompatible with our own.
These grandstanding gestures are all well and good, but sooner or later it's realism time.
Like Assad Allam with his 'football should be free like the air' spiel.
The buck has to stop somewhere.

 

It's OK - Sterling said he's picking up the tab.

 

Then that is the fault of the system, not the person. If people can get away with something, they will. How many would say no to a 200% pay increase if it meant two part time cleaning staff were laid off? Very few I imagine. But the person being handed the cheque isn't to blame (despite their questionable morals), the company that wrote it is. Even so, how many British people in this country have never worked but claim benefits for housing, children, jobseekers and disability? They haven't earned it, they're claiming it because it's either easier than working or because they think they're entitled to it. It's only when the focus is on foreigners that it becomes an issue. My mum is a social worker and one of the carers she knows is on benefits, as is his wife. They're off to Barbados for two weeks. But it's poor old Milos down at Hedon Salads that's getting the grief because he's born in the Czech Republic and he's stopping British people from working somehow. How dare he earn money that should be going to British people.

I haven't met a single foreigner who has demanded we change our country to suit them. If you're referring to Sharia Law (which we won't talk about), then that is wrong and shouldn't be allowed. Anybody coming to this country must obey the laws in which it lays down, it would be the same anywhere else. If the government then kowtows to it, then it's the governments fault. The person who asked only did just that. People are free to live their lives as it suits them, provided it doesn't break any of the laws which govern the country. If they're aware of this and ignore it, then they haven't got a leg to stand on if brought to account.

The people who are currently at Calais probably aren't all coming here innocently, but that's why we have border security and screening checks. Most of them aren't coming here to live, they're coming here because the only other option is death in their homeland.

 

We do. It's called helping. You can choose not to, if you like. Just make sure your justification is sound.

 

Or all the safe countries en route.

 

So we should take in nobody, your attitude is 'I wash my hands of the whole affair'. Not good.

 

I agree with a fair chunk of your post but I must take exception to your characterisation of people from this country on benefits.

The example you use is regularly trotted out by the people you claim to be against - the example of these English born free-loaders going on holidays to Barbados etc. I'm not saying it doesn't happen but it's rare and a role reversal example of an immigrant doing something similar would likely herald calls of racism.

Essentially, the people on benefits in this country are a huge scapegoat for the country's ills - you should know this.

Unfortunately, there's little protection against calling someone a chav, a scrounger or berating these so called spongers when the truth is, most people want to work who are on benefits and many do (legitmately).

 

We have taken more than our fair share , and pay more in Foreign Aid than everyone except the Septics.
You bleat it's not enough.
Most consider it's plenty enough.

 

There's a lot more than you think. I've been unemployed and had to go to the dole office, it's ****ing horrendous. Thankfully, I only had to go twice before finding a job, but I spoke to many people from this country who were claiming benefits because it was easier than working. It's the nanny state that we've created that allows people money for doing nothing. Why can somebody from Poland come to England and find a job within weeks, yet somebody born here will go months or even years unemployed and not find any sort of work at all? You don't need special skills to work behind a bar, to clean roads or to pack cucumbers, so why do so many people struggle? If you genuinely can't work because of illness or disability, that's a different matter entirely, that's what the system is there for.

They probably aren't to blame either, but those who are fit enough should be made to work (no matter where they are from) doing small, menial tasks to earn their benefits. I like the volunteering role, my friend did it at the British Heart Foundation and he got a reference when he got his current job, so there's incentive to actually do it. But it doesn't work if your final goal is to pick up the cheque, not to actually find a permanent post.

 

The only other option is death in their homeland. That applies someone in France? Or any other safe country they have passed through. They could have claimed asylum in any of those and then applied to legally move to this country in due time. Just how naive are you?

You haven't heard of gangs of youths demanding alcohol is put away as it is a Muslim area? Or calling local girls slags for the way they dress? Other religions don't eat certain things but only one has every pupil or customer forced to eat food which meets their requirements. Though that is often of white middle class liberals who detest their own country. A bit like some younger teachers.

I will agree with you on people in this country who won't work and who work the system. Trouble is the authorities don't target those but go for the soft options.

Mentioning Milos is a bit daft as he is entitled to be here. Just as our young people are entitled to be in the Czech Republic or elsewhere. If they weren't too comfortable and idle to get off their backsides. Of course the fact our education sydtem turns out so few people who can speak another language whilst other countries turn out young people who can speak English and often another one.

 

Thats a decent point Doctor.
Why are we spending £100 Billion in HS2 when a lot more can be done by spending Billions improving the Briadband structure in Britain.