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The EU debate - Part III

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  1. Stan

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    I win!
     
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    We import 40% of our food. Most of those Unilever products - including famous "British" products like Marmite - are produced using imported materials. This is all about Brexit and the crashing pound.
     
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    I think you just answered your own question. He's a thick ****.!...
     
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    You can have your own opinion, but not your own facts,

    You're using your usual tedious twisted bullshit to try to make your opinion look less ridiculous and in the hope it drives people away.

    You and suffering with mental health are the ones disrupting the thread by persistently resorting childish abuse. It only takes a read of the thread to see that,

    It's what makes your comments an attempt at yet another strawman.
     
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    We were giving an opinion on you. We made no argument, and certainly didn't try and twist an existing one, therefore your strawman was completely inappropriate, and simply displays - yet again - your ability to **** yourself up the arse.

    Why don't you just **** off
     
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    The only person disrupting this thread is you, you tedious, ignorant ****wit.

    **** off and peddle your idiotic nonsense somewhere else!...
     
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    Yep, a strawman, and that's a fact. <ok>

    You two keep posting abuse or twisted versions of replies, and then whine like a pair of bitches about someone replying to it.

    I'm only replying to bullshit and bollocks that you and NSIS initiate. If you didn't post such ****e, there'd be nothing for me to reply to in kind.
     
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    If you can't take it, don't give it you boring tart. <ok>


    I'm only replying to bullshit and bollocks that you and Wurzel initiate. If you didn't post such ****e, there'd be nothing for me to reply to in kind.
     
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    In the same market, Aldi and Lidl read the markets and predictions and have acted accordingly. As usual, Tesco thought they could bully their way through it.
     
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    You patently don't understand what that phrase even means if believe that and you're yet again going to spam this thread arguing a point that you're completely wrong on.

    Which completely backs up the opinion you quoted.

    You thick ****
     
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    <laugh>

    #dontblamebrexit
     
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    See, you're still doing it. You seem to think it's okay for you to post an absolute load of ****e and abuse, and that nobody is allowed to reply to it.

    If I had initiated these tedious thread cluttering exchanges you'd perhaps have a point, but it's you and the other tart that do it.

    It's in your hands, stop posting the childish thread diversions and there's no replies needed. Like you, it really is that simple. (I'll cut and paste this as no doubt the suffering one will post something similar soon)
     
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    Bullshit comes only from you. We post facts. Facts that you don't like. You don't really understand what's going on so first of all you resort to your usual tangent tactics.

    When you're pulled up on the crap you spout, which isn't too difficult, as it's simple, like you, you resort to your oh so familiar tactics...


    Which is what you're doing now, You stupid , ignorant, moronic fool.
     
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  14. DMD

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    Erm, where did I say it wasn't due to Brexit then wurzel..

    STRAWMAN
     
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    TA DAA

    See, you're still doing it. You seem to think it's okay for you to post an absolute load of ****e and abuse, and that nobody is allowed to reply to it.

    If I had initiated these tedious thread cluttering exchanges you'd perhaps have a point, but it's you and the other tart that do it.

    It's in your hands, stop posting the childish thread diversions and there's no replies needed. Like you, it really is that simple. (I'll cut and paste this as no doubt the suffering one will post something similar soon)
     
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    I'll post what I ****ing like and when you post utter drivel I'll pull you up on it.

    You can't stand being proven wrong - ever. So you just plough on boring everyone to ****ing tears with your inanity - just like you're doing know after being told your strawman picture made no sense in the context posted - which is a simple ****ing fact, but you can't accept it and carry on and on and on.

    That's why you get called a ****, as you act like one. Try actually debating and backing up your points, and we can have a discussion, but carry on acting like a **** and you'll get treated like one.
     
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    Where did I say you did?

    STRAWMAN
     
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    Published: 20 Sep 2016
    Last Updated: 20 Sep 2016
    Tesco, Sainsbury’s, Morrisons and especially Asda are losing ground in a vicious supermarket price war with Aldi and Lidl.

    In the 12 weeks to September 11 2016, all of ‘Big Four’ have seen their year-on-year sales figures go into reverse, according to data from Kantar Worldpanel. Asda’s were hardest hit, down 5.4%, followed by Morrisons (-2.3%) and Sainsbury’s (-1.4%).

    That leaves the coveted title of ‘least worst performing big grocer’ to Tesco. Its sales fell 0.2%, in a sign that Dave Lewis’s strategy - of fixing the budget first before building up the brand – may be beginning to work.

    Apparently those super-authentic farm brands are doing the trick too, finding their way into a quarter of Tesco shoppers' baskets.

    When you consider that Aldi and Lidl grew sales by 11.6% and 9.5% respectively, though, Tesco’s performance hardly stands out. The German ‘discounters’ (they hate the term) have succeeded in making themselves a mainstream option for British shoppers. They haven’t poached many of them in their entirety – 94% of their customers also shop regularly at one of the major grocers –but they have certainly taken a share of their spend.


    Any slowdown following the Brexit vote will only make matters worse - remember that it was the austerity of household budgets during the 2008-9 recession that allowed Aldi and Lidl to expand at the expense of Tesco and the others in the first place.

    Even if the UK does leave the single market at the end of its EU negotiations, it won’t help much. Aldi and Lidl have a healthy mix of British and European suppliers, just like Tesco does.

    THE BIG FOUR FIGHT BACK
    To resist the onslaught, the Big Four have aggressively cut prices. Deflation continues apace (for the time being), with prices falling 1.1% over the last three months (sales overall were up 0.3% - boosted by strong alcohol sales). While the big supermarkets can keep that up, enduring in a low-margin era as much less profitable entities, it means they will need to continue shutting their less profitable stores to shore up their dodgy balance sheets.

    The discounters on the other hand have low prices built into their business models from the beginning, emphasising bulk over brand and price over range. Crucially, though, this hasn’t stopped them from surprising customers with quality too – premium own brands were up 29.5% over the period between the two stores.

    Aldi and Lidl can use their size in the European market to get good prices from their suppliers, yet don’t have a depreciating UK property portfolio hanging around their necks, which means they’re able to expand into the gaps their rivals are creating.

    In November 2014, Aldi announced a plan to increase its store tally from 450 to 1000 by 2022. It’s already more than a fifth of the way there. Lidl, on the other hand, is investing £1.5bn over the next three years to build 40-50 stores annually (it had 150 as of November).

    To put that in perspective, Morrisons has 490 stores (though it has a much bigger footprint), while Tesco has over 6,000 including its Express convenience stores. There’s clearly still a long way to go before the discounters’ position in the market stabilises, but until then they will continue to expand their geographical reach.

    If both German chains do indeed double their store numbers over the next several years, it wouldn’t be a tremendous leap to expect their market share to increase accordingly, by which time the term ‘Big Four’ may no longer be appropriate. Get ready for the Big Six.



    Read more at http://www.managementtoday.co.uk/al...-business/article/1386497#SPw8gyLGM6PqU84i.99
     
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    So I wasn't blaming Brexit. Seems your other reply was just thread cluttering bullshit then. Fair enough.

    As for your second bit of thread cluttering bullshit, it's pretty much the advice you yourself should be taking. It fits you far, far better. After all, I've shown several times that I simply hold my hands up if I'm wrong. You however do exactly what you're trying now.

    Several times I've even multiquoted to save yours and nsis's bollocks cluttering the threads up further.
     
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