Off Topic Lily Allen

So their choice is Britain or certain death in any other countries?
Less virtue-signalling and more realism from you please.

 

Maybe she actually did it on purpose, so as to get her message right to the front of what people are talking about rather than just another voice lost in the background.

If you wanted your message to be heard above everyone else's then maybe you would use the same tactic. It appears to have worked as many people are talking about it, rather than it being lost in a sea of noise.

With regard to people moving countries, do people object when folk, as I have done, move to another country for work, new life etc?
Is what a refugee has done, any different? Surely they are looking for a better life for themselves and families. I know this is a simplistic view of the situation but I am just trying to put a bit of context into it all.
You get a fair amount of dislike to people coming into the country here, whether refugees, migrants, whatever which is quite short sighted as the ones complaining, in the majority of cases have patents, grandparents who came from other lands.

 

There's a difference between aid & personal charity donations.

 

Nobody is suggesting certain death in any other country, those 'other' countries take on more than we do anyway. Why should we shirk responsibility as a major world power just because a few idiots don't want foreign people in our country? There are currently around 7,000 people living in 'The jungle' at Calais. 70 cities and towns taking in 100 migrants each. Even taking in half that would ease the pressure and help the situation.

 

We are paying for it either way. My point was that as a nation we spend more on frivolous material things than we give in aid, so we can't complain about giving 'too much'. If we were giving too much, there wouldn't be a problem as their would be surplus money left for the people to have as disposable cash.

 

Her career is flagging and she has previous as talentless attention seeker. That's what amuses most people hence all the tweets about 'On behalf of the British people, I apologise for the music of Lilly Allen' etc
A refugee seeks safety from war, famine, catastrophe etc
A migrant just wants a better life (who doesn't?) and are nearly always young men
Unfortunately some seem to want to blur the distinction.

 

Totally agree, I think if you're going to close our borders off to the rest of the world, then people shouldn't be allowed to leave either. We can't have it both ways.

 

Hello?
See previous posts about population density per square mile in different European countries and Foreign Aid.
We do more than our fair share.
That Albanian goat herd who murdered a Pole and was sentenced in Hull last week -what crisis was he fleeing from exactly?
Turned out he was on the run from some petty robbery back in Albania.

 

The list you posted is what made your final paragraph bullshit. If you'd posted a list of wasted government money the aid you mention would have been relevant.

Your list was personal spends. To bring it into context you should have posted a total list of the country's population's annual charitable donations.

The population is extremely generous when it comes to charity donating around £40 billion a year. It's a personal choice as to where & if. As is plastic surgery, take-always, mobile phones & credit cards.

 

Right, so in that instance, we failed because we didn't do a screening check on him. And since when did one Albanian guy represent all migrants and refugees? Circumstance dictates a lot of reasons why people move, as you said, many want a better life. To be seen as a place to come that offers a safe, non-discriminating, environment for them and their families is something to be proud of, not angry about.

I saw your foreign aid post. Pointless, it pales in comparison to the things we as a country spend money on that we don't have to. Foreign aid is a small part of the solution, bunging money at a problem isn't the answer. We have to take action as a country. While we sit in offices discussing things around tables, people are dying. Money isn't going to solve that, otherwise the problem would be sorted now. What's the population density in the Scottish Highlands, by the way? Or Wales, for that matter? Too crowded?

 

Did no one know there are all these refugees in Calais?

 

The list I posted was providing context to the fact that we piss away billions of pounds on stuff we don't really have to, so we can't complain about the amount we give in aid. If we spent such expenses elsewhere, we could offer more.

 

No - inhospitable terrain, difficult to traverse or cultivate.

Next.

 

Apparently, we're the 5th biggest economy in the world, but gently descending now. We have power and money - not us as individuals, but collectively. We can find squillions for a pointless Hinckley Point, for a useless HS2...squillions with no definition, no ceiling.

We agreed to take thousands of children - some with family members in the UK, but we appear to have welshed on that agreement.

Hundreds of children have disappeared - into sexual slavery? body parts trade? domestic slavery?

Sleep well, you 'innocent' posters.

 

Inhospitable. Except for all the scattered hamlets, villages and towns, yeah. Good point. 73 migrants in 100 towns and cities across the UK. However would we cope?

****ing difficult to traverse, they've just trekked across all of Europe.

 

Is this Lilly Allen another crazed Corbynista?

 

Maybe the child she met just wanted to live with his dad.

 

Disgusting isn't it? But we'll moan that we didn't spend an extra £10m in the transfer window.

 

How come his dad is thousands of miles away from his son?

 

But we don't give the aid, the government does. The government don't pay our CC bills, for our mobiles, plastic surgery or take-aways. They under fund education, the NHS, Local government & many other organisations. When people pay their taxes & still get an operation cancelled three times I can understand their frustration when foreign aid is increased.

We waste & are responsible for our own money whilst also giving around £40 billion to charity annually, which is completely different.to the government aid.

I don't disagree with your sentiment, I just think the context of your post was wrong.