I think some women wear it because their husbands make them. If the woman wears it of her own accord, then I think she has serious issues.....of course, she will say it is the name of religion. Religion? If a Christian dressed up in such ultra-religious garb I'd say they were whacko too.
It's an over the top version of the hijab but the reasons for it are the same, or similar. I'd have no issues with this sort of clothing, if they were regulated properly, so that when there was a need for them to show their identity they had to, and when they were driving, they had to remove it for safety reasons, there's no way those things are safe to drive in, I can vouch for that by the fact I'm nearly hit by a woman wearing one whilst driving, at least once a week. They must hate bin collection day too, imagine how many of them get scooped up by mistake and thrown in the back of a bin lorry.
They'll always be entitled to their modesty in this country mate, we're not a dictator state, freedom of expression is something we should be proud of. Imagine if you lived somewhere like Saudi and your Mrs had to bag up every day or face prison and/or death.
Off to the council rubbish dump with them. The thing with the Jewish clobber is that, I guess, unless they are ultra-orthodox you wouldn't know they were Jewish. I have loads of Jewish customers in Newcastle and they are all modern orthodox and dress just like us on a daily basis.
I know two Turkish girls who both wear hijabs occasionally, because they can't be bothered to do their hair. In this instance, it's the same as me putting my snap back on for the gym, cos I can't be arsed to make my hair look acceptable.
This is why I believe the girls and women come under pressure in this country to wear them. Fair enough, some of them might wear them voluntarily as an identity thing, but the blokes will be running the roost. It is, as you say, bag up or face the consequences. If that's right, I don't think it will sit squarely with a lot of people in this country. Women have fought for decades for equal rights and yet here we have a religion taking some people back to Victorian times.
Of course mate, well I can spot a Jewish person a mile off now but that's because I married one, but I get what you're saying. They 'fit in' but there's also Jewish clobber for women other than the wigs, they have head scarfes, floppy hats and the lot, there's just less of them so they don't get all of the ****.
You have a valid point mate, but until you understand Islam it will frustrate you. Women are not necessarily suppressed by the male, often they're brought up to be the mother, the wife and the housekeeper, traditionally. Just because we have fought for equal rights, it doesn't mean they should be forced to accept equality. We don't try to force Gypsy women to accept equality do we? There'll be millions of cases, sure, where women are forced to stop education and stay in and 'suffer' as we would see it, but until we can distinguish between those who are and those who aren't, the subject is too sensitive to change on a humanity level.
I used to live near the Jewish quarter in Gateshead, you never heard anything from them. They just wanted to get on with their lives without impacting on anyone else. Some of their outfits were mega
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The first pic looks like an umpah lumpah and is awful <puke> not sure why the young woman needs to wear the headwear in the second. Modesty, privacy? But from what? Men's lecherous thoughts? <shrugs shoulders>
Top - Horrid Bottom - Bonny girl I have no problems at all with the headscarf thing. That top to toe outfit with just the eye slits, and some of them are covered by a gauze. I don`t like that.
Tel's pretty much summed up my thoughts on this subject. Hell of a lot of misunderstanding about how Islam works and it causes for strife than necessary. Live and let live.
My thoughts are that one to one, yes, you can live and let live. Not sure you can apply that when one becomes millions, though.
What does it matter though mate? If you want to put a hat on, do you have to explain why you're wearing a hat to everybody else in the street? Like I said, there's no valid reason for a woman, married or otherwise, to have to show her hair, neck etc to passers by, if she doesn't want to. There's sufficient features available to see, in order to identify that person if necessary and that's all that matters to me. I'm far more offended by some of the outfits I'd see gay lads wearing, but I can't do owt about that, it's their choice to be 3 stone and wear pink hot pants.
Oh thats a hijab, I was getting it mixed up with a burka. Dont mind the hijab. As long as you can see the majority of the persons face I dont mind!
Wrong thread for the gay lads in pink pants mate Of course a woman doesn't have to show her bare skin in public, however, and excluding slappers in the Bigg Market, we do have a culture in this country of dressing smartly but liberally. Suddenly, we have a group that wish to cover up for the sake of privacy and decency. This has come from abroad and is now happening here, with a religion of all things behind it all.
I can see you're not looking at it from a malicious point of view mate, but you only have to look at traditions to see how this country has changed. Would your grandma have gone out wearing a short skirt and slutty crop top? (apologies for putting that thought into your head) It's highly unlikely unless she's one of those grandma's who are in their 30's. The country has changed, the slags are slaggier and the sluts are sluttier, so when something is introduced to society that doesn't necessarily conform with the trend, then people are going to object. As far as I'm concerned these girls wearing the hijab are a lot more pleasant on the eye than the fat dumps you see in clubs who wear clothes that don't fit and their front bums hang down to their knees, I'd much rather they covered up, or just didn't go out at all.
