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Mysteries of the Universe and other important questions

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  1. jenners04

    jenners04 I must not post porn!

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    I love a chicken shish even when sober but doner kebab is definitely best when pissed with everything on it esp extra hot sauce.
     
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  2. Thus Spake Zarathustra

    Thus Spake Zarathustra GC Thread Terminator

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    Cornwall. Okay, you're a soft, Home Counties shandy, to be pedantic. <diva>
     
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    Spurlock Homeboy Forum Moderator

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    We are just a dot.

    Pfffft to those that don't believe in Aliens.
     
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  5. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    Yes?
     
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    Spurlock Homeboy Forum Moderator

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    To which bit did the 'yes' apply?
     
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  7. Milk not bear jizz

    Milk not bear jizz Grasser-In-Chief

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    Sting is an alien.
     
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  8. Thus Spake Zarathustra

    Thus Spake Zarathustra GC Thread Terminator

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    Only in New York.
     
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  9. Thus Spake Zarathustra

    Thus Spake Zarathustra GC Thread Terminator

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    The observable universe - and that's only the bit that we can still see - I heard put in these terms: if our GALAXY (let alone our solar system) was as big as a full stop in a book, the universe would be the size of a library as big as a basketball court. Think.
     
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    Milk not bear jizz Grasser-In-Chief

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    In all fairness if there's anything outside our Galaxy we will probably never make contact so we can only speculate on what's inside our Galaxy. We're still just a tiny blue dot but orders of magnitude larger than when compared to whole universe.

    In our Galaxy we're probably early. Astrobiologists predict that we're really on the early side of planets capable of sustaining life existing.

    Many millions of years from now there will be many more planets that could sustain life.

    We might just be the first intelligent life in our corner of the galaxy.
     
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  11. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    <laugh> Everywhere else, he's just a **** <ok>
     
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  12. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid Forum Moderator

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    Way too many planets / stars / galaxys for there not to be some form of life out there. No talking little green men with huge eyes but some kind of life has to be out there.
     
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  13. Thus Spake Zarathustra

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    Given the right chemical conditions and temperature, over the course of billions of years some molecules will form patterns and replicate themselves. As to what is 'intelligent' life, or indeed consciousness, is open to vast interpretation. But if you just go off the Drake equation, there must be MILLIONS of forms of 'life' even in this galaxy.
     
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  14. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    Watched a great edition of Horizon last night on i player. If you really want to feel small, watch 'Mapping the Universe'. Truly ****ing mind-blowing stuff.
     
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    In another galaxy maybe... But the gap between galaxies is so huge we'll never cross between them or detect them.

    Due to the expansion of space between galaxies, many of them we could never reach without FTL travel (impossible by our current knowledge of physics). The gap between us and many galaxies is expanding faster than speed of light.

    Life may be exceedingly rare. Not only must the conditions be right but they have to evolve with their own balance systems built in. (Like oxygen cycle on earth or Nitrogen). If any element can not be cycled that is necessary for that form of life then life will be short lived.

    If life starts on 1 in 100 thousand planets and a balanced (sustainable) set of balances only occurs in 1 in 100 thousand instances of life. Life will only succeed in 1 in 10 billion planets.

    (I don't know odds obviously just giving an example of how it's feasible we're alone). There are just 100 billion planets estimated in our galaxy.

    If my out-the-arse odds are correct, there are 100 billion planets in our galaxy which means only 10 would have sustainable life. In our entire-huge galaxy. And... We may not exist at the same time.

    What are odds of high intelligence evolving? 1 in 100? That would mean only 1 in 10 milkyway sized galaxies would have sapient life-forms.


    It's not infeasible mankind never encounters intelligent life or even non intelligent life even if we expand across much of the galaxy.
     
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  16. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid Forum Moderator

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    Yup, doubt we'all ever encounter them but odds are there is something else out there
     
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  17. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    i think your odds are way off. the starting point is what science is investigating right now.. where is there water and they are proving where there is water right now through observation.

    https://www.rt.com/viral/356189-earth-like-planet-water/

    take a look. there could be one 4.5 light years away!

    if there is liquid water then chances are there's oxygen.... stands to reason. After that anything could be the case.

    Start with liquid water, if that can be observed you'll probably find some form of life.
     
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  18. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    They think they've detected water on Europa. Here's what that Horizon finished up last night:

    Dark energy
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    Not to be confused with dark fluid, dark flow, or dark matter.
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    In physical cosmology and astronomy, dark energy is an unknown form ofenergy which is hypothesized to permeate all of space, tending to acceleratethe expansion of the universe.[1] Dark energy is the most accepted hypothesis to explain the observations since the 1990s indicating that the universe isexpanding at an accelerating rate.
     
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  19. Thus Spake Zarathustra

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    Depends how you define 'life'. We may be short of little green men, but we could well find organisms on Europa, let alone within the rest of the galaxy.
     
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    Do you think Einstein would have accepted dark energy? I don't want to sound all Sisu, but there's no real evidence for it except that we don't know how else to describe what's happening (Steady State?).
     
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