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Discussion in 'Newcastle United' started by Albert's Chip Shop, Sep 26, 2016.

  1. ClearlyDeludedGloryHunter

    ClearlyDeludedGloryHunter Well-Known Member

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    Hell's teeth. And I have a Jerry Lee Lewis album here at home.

    In terms of this conversation: so bloody what?
     
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  2. marcusblackcat

    marcusblackcat SAFC Sheriff Forum Moderator

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    Not a single Sunderland fan supported Adam Johnson when we found out he was guilty - NOT ONE - 2 of you now know that Cisse is also guilty of the crime but are fully supporting him - (Johnson is not a ***** by the way - *****philia relates to children - not pubescent teens - Think it's epiphilia or something)

    Complete hypocrites
     
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  3. ClearlyDeludedGloryHunter

    ClearlyDeludedGloryHunter Well-Known Member

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    You know, if I ever found out that my Messiah turned out to be *****phile then I'd turn to a different messiah, perhaps even to Islam.

    No, wait...
     
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  4. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    Seriously? I'm not suggesting for a second he has done anything illegal. However you can't have the England manager flying around meeting what can be at best described as dodgy types, offering to advise them how to get round FA rules on Third Party Ownership. He has done nothing wrong except make himself look like a stupid greedy oaf who clearly has been operating in the grey areas of football for quite some time. There are previous rumours which couldn't be proven after investigation. If you are naive enough to believe this is a guy who isn't somewhat unscrupulous, then fair enough. As you could quite rightly claim, legally and by the book he's done nothing wrong.

    He says the right things about bungs, but he is laughing. At that point if he had any sort of moral compass he'd get up and say "right fellas I've heard enough, this is not or me". He comes across as a man who has been in enough of these situations over the years. He won't be alone either.

    Somehow I don't think that's a very good advert for the England football team personally. Its bad enough he's a ****e manager, picking ****e squads, and a completely unlikeable prick. Saddest thing is the England job was supposedly his dream job, yet a month into his new job on 3m a year, he decides he can make a quick £400,000 getting involved in something which is at best unsavoury. He'd take the financial adviser and agent with him because they'd have no problem taking a cut of any dodgy dealings as long as they were legal.

    I think what people are struggling to separate is what is legal and what is just not really on for a manager to be involved in. They are saying they will expose more. Whoever they, regardless of their standing and whether I like them, I hope they all disappear from football. Just a bunch of leeches using grey areas to feather their nest.
     
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  5. Charlie Dogscock

    Charlie Dogscock Well-Known Member

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    I didn't support him, I only found out about that story recently. Given the **** he was serving up since summer 2012 I'd have been well up for him thrown out of the squad.

    *****/epiphilia/whatever blah blah semantics.
     
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  6. ClearlyDeludedGloryHunter

    ClearlyDeludedGloryHunter Well-Known Member

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    To be honest, I don't keep much of an eye on that sort of news of sportspeople off the pitch/course/etc and I didn't realise until now that Cisse was convicted of anything neither.

    And, frankly, I don't much care neither. He was just another player along for the money for the club and most of the time I wouldn't have recognised him even if he were in a Newcastle shirt. Yes, my interest in particular individuals has sunk to that level of disinterest...
     
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  7. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    Marcus - It is interesting that you use Cisse as an example. It shows the hypocrisy on your part. Officially he has been charged with nothing. He has been convicted of zero. All we have is some newspaper report based on a claims made by a woman he was with which cannot be taken as proof. If true yeah its not right to get a 14 yr old pregnant even if you are only 16 yourself. If there is further official evidence I haven't seen then fair enough, but I can only go on what I have seen in The Sun and The Daily Fail.

    Yet in Sam's case we have nothing illegal but we do have a video of him saying its no problem to circumvent rules his employer and footballs governing has put in place, but its not a problem?

    Morally I'm struggling a little with your reasoning here. If it is shown that this newspaper report on Allardyce is somehow doctored or taken out of context then I stand corrected. But at present on what I've watched online he looks a right shady ****.
     
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  8. Toon_Man_Sam1

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    I support Cisse until proven guilty. A newspaper headline doesnt make him guilty which If i remember correctly is why you were cheering him and clapped him at matches the whole time, also used his goal against us to wind us up, even when he did an aeroplane celebration which was extremely bad taste from a convicted sex offender

    Even after conviction, Facebook groups were set up by fans showing support, some of the stuff I read (particularly from female sunderland supporters) was an absolute disgrace. Saying the victim was asking for it, called her a slut/slag, a young girl put through a trial, having her parents present whilst every detail was publicised to the nation, that is the disgrace. This is a minor abused by someone 13/14 years her senior. Not a 15/16 year old with a 14 year old. Cisse was brought up in a different culture where the legal age is lower, im not saying its correct and I still think its wrong that a 14 year old can legally get pregnant in this world, but legally Cisse did nothing wrong, if the daily star or the sun article is correct, but they have never been too bothered about printing true stories now have they!

    Grasping at straws, bending and manipulating facts to work your arguement, well guess what, your fighting a losing battle just like Sunderland in the premier league! #MEXIT
     
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  9. Albert's Chip Shop

    Albert's Chip Shop Top Grafter Forum Moderator

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    Was he put on trial or arrested though Marcus (Cisse that is?)
    I thought it was just paper talk? (genuinely not sure here)
    If he committed a crime and is found guilty he should be punished like all other sick nonces of course... but as a lot of Mackems have said to me regarding AJ..... innocent until proven guilty.
     
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  10. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    Thousands did, and still do, on social media mate.

    How has this conversation about Allardyce ended up discussing who's got the best ***** anyway?
     
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  11. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    <laugh>
     
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  12. marcusblackcat

    marcusblackcat SAFC Sheriff Forum Moderator

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    Never seen a single SAFC fan support him after he admitted it! We hate him on here!! They spouted the term "***** supporters"

    @Albert's Chip Shop it couldn't be brought to trial due to it happening years ago (Senegalese law I think) but it's a fully corroborated story and he had a 14 year old child to a 27 year old wife (at the time) so regardless of anything else - it's definitely true regardless of whether he was arrested or not
     
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  13. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    Same boat mate, I thought this was just some story in the Sun and Fail, in which she claimed they changed the birth certificate to 16 for his career. Also accused him of bigamy. Nothing seems to have been followed up though? That would suggest the story was horseshit or they'd have been all over it. I think they even used the phrase "she claimed".

    Well ****ing hell JPF claims to have an 8 inch cock, it doesn't make it true. Certainly not on what Obi told me.
     
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  14. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    Mate the day he was being sentenced there were people all over twitter saying the guy had been given a bad deal, admittedly they probably weren't all Sunderland supporters but many were.

    His case will always divide people, many folk think she somehow lured him in and it was her fault etc, obviously that's a load of **** and opinions like that are attributed to what more than likely represents the 'special set at school' demographic. Still, they exist.
     
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  15. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    I've checked online and nothing to suggest this is a fully corroborated story. Just a lot of claims from women scorned. You'll have to post something meaningful Marcus or we'll just have hit the button on this one...

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  16. marcusblackcat

    marcusblackcat SAFC Sheriff Forum Moderator

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    Ouseman Cisse, Papiss' son, was 13 at the time - his mother 27 and Cisse 30 - i.e. pregnant at 13. But you can ignore facts and believe what you want
     
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  17. Toon_Man_Sam1

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    Thankfully the Adam Johnson Support Group on Facebook was taken down! some of the vile sh!te coming out of peoples mouths were deleted. the majority of which were sunderland supporters.
     
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  18. marcusblackcat

    marcusblackcat SAFC Sheriff Forum Moderator

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    Aye agreed totally - there should be no support for him or anyone who did what he did. I heard none from anyone I know who goes to, went to, posts on forums or is my friend on facebook. Anyone who supports him should be banned from ever watching football again!
     
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  19. Beardsley's Shimmy

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    Heresay is a dangerous thing. Just look at what happened when the Mackem poster Relic blew the lid off the alleged wrongdoings in the Fulwell end.
     
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  20. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    I'm not ignoring anything, I'm simply pointing out you have yet to reveal the source of this information. All we have is some claims made in The Sun and The Fail. Forgive me if I'm not immediately bowled over by their record of reporting integrity <laugh>

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ant-13-Oh-three-British-girlfriends-side.html
    https://www.thesun.co.uk/archives/news/32174/bigamist-cisse-got-me-pregnant-at-13/

    This is literally all I can find at present along with similar stories in the Express etc where the claims are made. Are you suggesting because she claimed it, it must be a fact?
     
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