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The EU debate - Part III

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  1. Bodinki

    Bodinki You're welcome Forum Moderator

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    So what's happening right now is this.....

    Both the UK and EU know that any failure to reach a decent FTA with each other will negatively impact both parties.
    The UK, being one country, will be hit harder if the FTA falls through, as the EU is 27 countries and a lot of the **** that will happen to them will, as has been pointed out, be spread across 27 nations instead of just one like it will with us.
    BUT, the EU will still lose out, there is literally no reason at all for them to lose billions in some stupid ****ing vendetta to spite the UK. These people are all about the money, thats why the slimey little ****s invented the ****ty EU in the first place.
    Right now they are weighing up whether its worth potentially losing out on hundreds of millions of pounds to spite the UK.
    Now the pros of them being cocks towards the UK is that it makes it look, to every other member of the EU, like leaving the EU is a bad move and will potentially put off other countries from having their own versions of Brexit.
    The cons are, that a) They lose a **** ton of money (as well as the UK) and b) It makes them look like ****s for being twats about the FTA with the UK and would probably turn off other countries from the EU anyway with their capriciousness and their spitefulness.

    Make no mistake, this was an underhanded undertaking by European politicians to make as much money as possible, with the eventual goal of seizing hold of Europe's sovereigntys and uniting them into one super government that these uber billionaire **** rags can control from within. And Brexit was most definitely a fly in their ointment. A country with such global pull, and twats try to underplay the UK's role in global politics, but they are just that....twats.

    I am no flag waver, and couldn't give two ****s about patriotism, but most of the worlds governments are modelled on Britains, the universal business language is English, we have a far better relationship with the US than any other European nation (mainly because we help them steal **** they want from Middle Eastern Countries, but thats another discussion), Britains peak has definitely passed (the Empire and all), but Britain still means something to the world, we are still a huge voice.
     
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  2. steveninaster1

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    So you didn't read it.
    'Civitas also points out that currently 1.3 million German jobs are dependent on healthy economic relations with Britain'

    That's a 1.6% increase in German unemployment to our 6%.
     
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  3. Stan

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    Yeh, you're gradually being brainwashed by the nationalists.

    We're a tiny little island in the grand scheme of things. No one gives a **** about who gave the world English or a democratic political system (that wasn't Britain by the way). That's all in the past, no point living in it as it's already happened.
     
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  4. Bodinki

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    Which of course the Germans will be more than happy to put up with, as long as Britains unemployment goes up more <doh>

    Why would the German people give a dusty ****?
    I can just imagine Merkel....

    "Well our unemployment has gone up by 2 million, but, ya know, silver lining, we put loads of Brits out of their jobs.....PARTY TIME!!"
     
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  5. Stan

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    Steve, of course he didn't read it! He relies on headlines and other people to tell him what to think!
     
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  6. Bodinki

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    See....twat :p

    We have always been a tiny little island Stan. We haven't shrunk in the past 200 years.
    I am no nationalist at all. Our power globally, has diminished in that time, t'is true, but thats really the only way it could have gone, since Britain pretty much ruled the world in times gone by.

    We're just a tiny island <doh>
    It would take me far too long to address that statement properly, and I really cannot be arsed.
     
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    It only works that way if you are trying to claim some kind of success from a failure to negotiate a deal.
    If a deal fails then both sides will be looking at the impact to their economy and from a German economy perspective it is manageable. From our perspective I'm not so convinced. Can we walk into negotiation and afford to say we don't care if 6% of our population will potentially lose their jobs if we don't compromise to get a deal.

    Neither side wins and the brinkmanship that claims May has an ace up her sleeve is false.
     
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    We're a tiny little island that used to have a lot of power and influence. That's over fella which is why the EU, the US, Japan and China aren't bending over to accommodate us. Nigel may have promised that they would but he was lying.

    Canada and Australia seem keen though.

    Just the facts ma'am.
     
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    Well no, because Merkel is probably the best friend Britain has in Europe right now. Better pray she gets re-elected.

    Both/all parties have far more to lose than gain from a descent into petty squables and tit for tat point scoring. The trouble is that most countries are led by pygmies pandering to electorates whose ignorance should never be underestimated.

    The real tragedy is that none of this need ever have happened, had the idiot Cameron not gambled his country's future and misread the number of pissed off, frightened, ignorant racists among the UK electorate. We could have remained in the EU and lobbied for change from a position of strength.
     
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    ... not often I can agree with you about a fox being a **** <laugh>
     
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  11. Stan

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    The headline reading simpletons on this thread will read that as "I love the EU".
     
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  12. Stan

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    The irony...
     
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  13. Bodinki

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    Why would we not compromise.
    All the UK needs to do is agree an FTA, as before, the only real compromise the EU will want from us is free movement, and I am more than happy to keep that.
    The UK just needs to find a way to keep free movement but re brand it and add a caveat that placates the thick racist ****s like KKKustard, so it appears like its not free movement, but in fact is more or less exactly the same.
    If this referendum has proved anything, its that the UK electorate are easy to fool.
     
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    You, and many others, may be happy with free movement. But the Fox's and Davis's of the world are not.

    What really worries me is this 'we don't need the single market' rhetoric.

    Like **** we don't!...
     
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    You're more than happy to keep free movement but that was the deciding issue in the referendum as the bigoted ****s like Kustard, Pete, armchairblue and God's Cock think that free movement of EU citizens encourages crime and an increase in Syrian terrorists. There will be far right riots if May doesn't all but close the borders.
     
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    You walked into the same voting lobby as the thick ****ing racists so you are going to have to come up with a way of placating the ****s. Good luck with that. You can't keep telling them "Brexit means Brexit" forever. Well, maybe you can.
     
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    Maybe that is May's plan. Just keep telling them that Brexit means Brexit so that they can continue to slap each other on the back in celebration of their "victory". Then she resigns, gets her peerage and goes to sit on the board of Deutsche Bank.
     
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    Brexit means Brexit :)
    We won and we will leave the EU
    No freedom of movement
     
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  19. Bodinki

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    I am sure we can.
    If Uncle Pete, Kustard and Dull are anything to go by, fooling the Brexiters will not be as hard as people think.
    I am a little ashamed that we had to resort to Xenophobic scare mongering in order to split from the EU, but I am still a million percent sure it was the right decision in the long run.
     
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    Dream on, you dozy fat idiot!
     
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