The EU debate - Part III

Ratios?
Ratio of what to what?

 

Since 2009 British MEPs have been less likely to be on the winning side than the MEPs from any other member state.
http://ukandeu.ac.uk/explainers/uk-meps-lose-most-in-the-european-parliament/

 

Found this if it helps:

“The lack of influence is quite marked. Over the past twenty years… there have been 72 occasions in the Council of Ministers where the United Kingdom has opposed a particular measure. Of those 72 occasions, we have been successful precisely 0 times and we have lost 72 times. That is a fact.”

 

That's how Remoaners like it. They love being told what to do.

 

From an accountant no less.

 

Yawn
http://ukandeu.ac.uk/explainers/the-policy-successes-and-failures-of-uk-meps/

'Overall, these results confirm the fact that British MEPs are marginalised on many policy issues in the European Parliament. This is largely a result of the British Conservatives leaving the dominant EPP group, as well as the increase in the number of UKIP MEPs (who are almost always on the losing side)'

Effectively we are marginalised because the politicians we send to Brussels choose to be.

 

Why did they leave, is it because it does not suit them or the UK?

 

I wonder how he calculates tax without using percentages.

 

If you think about it you might find other analogies where our politicians have flounced instead of trying to stay within a group and change opinion.
It will never suit the UK to be marginalised. It is the weakening of our main parties and an increase in UKIP that has undermined our ability to influence EU policy, not some claim that the EU is undemocratic.
The same researcher shows that prior to UKIP the UK was far from marginalised and actually enjoyed more concensus than any other major country.
http://ukandeu.ac.uk/explainers/is-the-uk-marginalised-in-the-eu-2/

 

The UK usually votes with the majority, but is now on the losing side more than any other nation

When votes are taken, the UK has recently been on the losing side more often than any other country.

So the UK has to accept some EU decisions that it didn't vote for.

https://fullfact.org/europe/british-influence-eu-council-ministers/

 

The EU IS undemocratic.

 

Been saying this for months. A false god idolised by muppets. The Tory Party seems to be very divided internally.

Minister says boss Boris Johnson never wanted Brexit and only backed Leave to become ‘heir apparent’ to Tory throne

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...e-to-become-heir-to-tory-throne-a7321406.html

 

Another Tory trying to undermine and embarrass the government. The UK is fast becoming the laughing stock of international politics.

NHS should get £5bn 'Brexit bonus' - Lansley

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37435648

 

Easily fixed

 

How many times has the UK supported a measure and won and how many times has the UK supported a measure and lost. You can get that from the same source which, as usual, you haven't disclosed.

 

The way they forced the UK to accept the euro was particularly embarrassing.

 

They've been trying, well to at least to appear to be fixing it.


Pulling out was the surest way. Staying in meant we were devolving local decision making from a local level, to some unelected group on the EU that couldn't find you on a map. It's bad enough being Londoncentric.

 

Perhaps his book-keeper does the difficult bits.

 

This argument is no different to accusing senior judges and civil servants of being unelected, or indeed the think tanks that supply MPs with their policies.
The ideas people are rarely elected, but the ideas only happen if those elected agree with it.

 

Yet more great news from the wonderful world of Brexit ( or how to completely **** your own economy DIY ).

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-09-22/brexit-bulletin-banks-throw-in-towel-on-clearing