The EU debate - Part III

Mail has the best showbiz section.

 

Do you think that's what Pete is into? Big fan of the Kardashians I suspect.

 

Virtually all of the unemployed voted out. The majority of home owners in work voted in. As did the majority of graduates and those still in education.

Shame the facts don't back up your 'losers' narrative.

 

That's a fine unbiased organisation. Anything they say should be taken with a Siberian salt mine

 

@Archers Road

Given that you're about the only one left who Captain Not So Sensible hasn't whacked on ignore, could you do us a favour mate and start a thread about the Sensible Party asking for people to suggest a policy set seeing as the leader of the party couldn't be arsed?

That way he can participate

 

Post it on General Chat.

 

Just like all the ones from Stronger in

 

Noooooo, that'd be too much, on the PL board would be better imo.

 

The GC lot would tear him a new one.

 

He'd have the entire forum on ignore within an hour though

 

They can't 'enforce' it, that's ridiculous rhetoric.

Juncker has conceded that there is no appetite amongst the people of Europe for a federal state.

It's currently, and for the forseeable future, a non starter.

 

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I assume Pete thinks that you get all the EU trade deals, Typex out the words European Union wherever they occur and replace with United Kingdom and hey presto we have trade deals with everybody.

 

He also ignored our veto, as we'd have never accepted it.

'Project fear' lol.

 

That seems to be his train of thought

 

Meanwhile, here what business leaders really think!...


http://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...etin-europe-s-ceos-don-t-want-to-help-the-u-k

 

He's that dumb! Wouldn't you just love hm as your accountant?...

 

That's why he works out of a garage mate.

 

More to the UK than a few banks in London

 

The City alone contributes around 4% of the UK's total earnings.

That's a hell of a lot of potentially lost earnings!

 

I like the the comparison I read somewhere that 'Brexit means Brexit' is a meaningless phrase and is like saying 'Breakfast means Breakfast' while true in itself, it doesn't actually mean anything. I mean breakfast for one person could be a fry up, for another a grapefruit, for another muesli and yogurt and to another a continental. Without knowing the terms of what 'breakfast' means then it's impossible to say if your going to be happy, but no matter what terms are agreed, it's pretty clear it'll be practically impossible to please everyone - and some are going to be disappointed.

By the way, here are some (non Mail/Express) reports.

https://infacts.org/7-brexit-consequences-didnt-know-last-week/
7. Plans to eradicate the budget deficit by 2020 have been abandoned. However, new estimates by economists suggest the government will have to borrow an extra £60 billion before the end of the parliament to soften the economic impact of Brexit. So far there is no sign at all of that extra £350m per week for the NHS promised by leading Brexiteers.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-economy-poll-britain-idUKKCN11L0IA
Britain is now expected to narrowly dodge a mild recession that was widely predicted after the country voted to leave the European Union, but the government will still need to add fiscal stimulus to support growth, a Reuters poll found.
Before - and soon after - the June 23 referendum economists were almost united in saying a vote to leave the EU would send the country into a mild recession based on an assumption that the government would move swiftly to start the divorce process.
But as the likely date of that first move has been pushed off until early next year or later, a survey of around 70 analysts taken in the past few days shows many have tempered their views.
But growth will be weaker than if Britons had voted to remain in the bloc. The economy will grow 1.7 percent this year and 0.7 percent next, still sharply lower than the respective 1.9 and 2.1 percent forecasts given in a June poll based on assumptions the country would vote to remain in the EU.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-boe-idUKKCN11R0RX
"Investment and employment intentions had fallen, and were consistent with broadly flat levels of capital spending and employment over the coming six to 12 months," the BoE said.
Its survey showed the weakest investment plans among British companies since 2010.
The BoE has said it expects Britain's growth rate to more than halve next year to 0.8 percent. On Wednesday the Paris-based OECD think tank halved its forecast for British economic growth in 2017 to 1.0 percent.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-sterling-idUKKCN11Q0UM
Worries about the political and economic risks from Britain's pending exit from the European Union drove sterling to a five-week low beneath $1.30 on Tuesday in markets thinned by anticipation of U.S. and Japanese central bank meetings.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/us-britain-eu-passporting-idUKKCN11P0E4

http://www.thecanary.co/2016/08/31/theres-surprising-upshot-brexit-vote-will-make-tories-blood-boil/

http://news.sky.com/story/uk-economy-oecd-downgrades-2017-gdp-forecast-by-1-10586952
A closely-watched forecast has slashed its prediction for UK economic growth next year by a full percentage point.
The Organisation for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD) cited uncertainty following the UK's Brexit vote and wider global growth woes for its assessment.
It was released as a separate study by the Office for National Statistics suggested the referendum result had not had a major effect on the UK economy so far.
Its chief economist, Joe Grice, said: "The index of services published soon and the preliminary estimate of third quarter GDP, published at the end of October, will add significantly to the evidence."
The OECD's update to its growth projections had UK GDP rising by 1.8% in 2016 - a slight improvement on its last forecast - but growth tumbling to 1% in 2017.