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The EU debate - Part III

Discussion in 'The Premier League' started by Jürgenmeiʃter, Sep 6, 2016.

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  1. steveninaster1

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  2. Archers Road

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    You don't know much about the British army do you? I have relatives in it, and they'll assure you it is run down and starved of resources. It's most unlikely we would be able to pull off a repeat of the Falklands should we be required to do so; well, impossible actually. Because the Navy we have left wouldn't even get a task force beyond Lizard Point.
     
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    I'm just watching Channel 4 Dispatches: The Battle for the Labour Party
    Momentum have a meeting before the Brighton & Hove CLP meeting and the tell everybody who to vote for. They also have handouts at the meeting entrance handing out leaflets showing who to vote for. The people Momentum wanted got elected. The Labour Party invalidated the meeting but I'm sure this will be happening everywhere. The new Labour Party will not get elected because they are too far left.
     
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    Your slum toilets need cleaning you fat, bigoted failure.
     
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    And Ukip will not get elected because they are a bunch of dribbling wierdos with barely concealed racist and misogynistic instincts. This is also true, by the way, of large sections of the Tory party, but for the moment May has them under manners. Don't expect that to last once it becomes clear that "Brexit" actually means "a new deal very similar too, but marginally worse than, the old deal".
     
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    I think your inability to think is reflected in your wild abuse. I don't think you realise that once we leave the EU the country will be a lot better off.
     
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    Based on what evidence or thinking? In your own words please, I don't want a link to a looney right wing website.
     
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    Because the government will ensure they control immigration. They realise that is what the majority of the country wants.
    You call any website that doesn't agree with you a "looney right wing website".
     
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    Dispatches shows that money raised for the Jeremy Corbyn campaign funds people working for Momentum which is illegal.
     
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    You're obsessed with immigration you fat, hypocritical failure.

    Which is ironic given you had to import a wife and another man's child.
     
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    How is controlling immigration going to benefit an economy damaged by uncertainty? And what resources will be available to control immigration given the vast number of civil service man hours that will be needed to re-negotiate trade agreements?
     
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    A bit like your missus.
     
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    Why not try a debate it like an adult that make stupid coments like a 5 yera old
    Your "uncertainty" will not last long, just like uncertainty was short lived after the referendum.
     
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    Now you are going over old ground that you have already been defeated on in the referendum. Why do you say "re-negotiate"? Don't you mean "negotiate"? There will be enough money spent to do the job of controlling immigration as well as negotiating trade deals. It's better than giving immigrants tax credits and benefits as well as paying for hospitals and schools, etc. for the immigrants to use.
     
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    Where will this money come from? Will we be looking at further cuts in the NHS, defence, education? Or will we be looking at higher taxes to pay for increased border security, extra customs and immigration checks, and the army of civil servants needed to work on these negotiated trade deals?
     
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    Why will we be looking at higher taxes to pay for increased border security, extra customs and immigration checks? We refuse entry to people who are not allowed to enter the country.
    Why do we need an "army of civil servants" to work on these trade deals? Have you seen the trade deals that have been made around the world and are all available online? You don't need "an army" to put them together and negotiate them.
     
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    Uncertainty hasn't gone away. Unlike the £, the FTSE has rebounded quickly because we haven't actually left anything yet. Expect that to change when and if UK access to the single market comes under threat. Most reputable agencies UK growth forecasts have been revised downwards since the referendum. We're not in a ****-storm yet, but if the Brexit fundamentalists in the Tory party get their way we soon will be.
     
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    Nigel has promised Pete £350million a week for the NHS, although I'm not sure that will be enough to cover his gastric band treatment.
     
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    So long as there's no more darkies on the street, eh? You fat bigoted old ****.
    You clearly don't object to all immigrants, you married one, ffs! Just the ones of the 'darker persuasion' you don't like.
     
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    You do actually. Just as you need manpower to exercise tighter immigration control at ports and points of entry. Given the across the board cuts in civil service budgets since 2010, we're already starting from a weakened position resource wise.
     
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