The EU debate - Part III

If we keep making demands and trying to bully a deal I can only see them getting more belligerent and us getting less than was possible by playing nice

 

It's astonishing that people are still ignorant enough to publicise the fact that it's their paper of choice.

 

I think we should be told about the resurgence of the Nazi party in Mitcham!...

 

Their leader has said she is pro shooting migrants and refugees who try to enter the country.

They are gaining support in former East Germany but most in the rest of Germany are appalled. The net result of AfD getting 10-20% of the vote currently looks like creating a coalition of the centre left party SPD with the Greens and the socialists and so push German politics to the left.

 

http://www.liberties.eu/en/news/racism-not-overcome-spain

Racism Is Far From Being a Thing of the Past in Spain
April 13, 2016 • by Rights International Spain
A review of racial discrimination will take place this month by the UN. Rights International Spain has submitted a report highlighting principle concerns in this area.

In Spain, there is no equality and non-discrimination law

No effective independent mechanism exists to combat discrimination

No mechanism to collect required data

Police lack training in confronting racism

Mass deportations of migrants and refugees are carried out

Stigmatized and discriminated Arab population

Crimes go unreported for fear of being deported

Many are deprived of liberty

Roma segregation in schools

 

Does that have anything to do with anything?

 

Not if you're happy to see racism and inequality, which seemingly was the discussion.

 

Silly cow should have learned from recent history, where labour admitted to a similar **** up.

 

It's his usual not very subtle and unsuccessful dig at me!

All countries have racism to one extent of another. I can't say that outside of football crowds that I've seen any overt evidence of it.

The police can be a problem, but the UK still has that too.

 

Hmm, so a human rights group is no more accurate than the Daily Mail. I think your own personal bigotry and prejudice are clouding your 'judgement'.

 

However much I dislike it, it is hard to deny that accepting a large number of foreigners in a short space of time is bound to cause instability and resentment.

 

In my personal experience there is less racism in Spain than there is in the UK.

 

I guess the liberty group perhaps looked at others personal experience. My own is that I've seen far more discrimination in Spain than in the UK.

There was an interesting study I read the other day, showing what some in here claimed was valid. It related to the apparent rise in reported racist incidents after Brexit, which seemingly hasn't lead to an increase in convictions, which was what some contended.

Apparently some claims of racist incidents were nothing of the sort, one example given was shop windows broken, which turned out to be part of a spate of smash and grabs.

 

You obviously don't read very well. I said from my personal experience, not that I denied it exists.

Unlike you, I don't hold any racial prejudices or bigotry!

 

Very true this.... all the old british racists like to move to spain.

 

But Pete lives in a slum in Mitcham and you live in a one bedroom council flat in Hastings?!

 

What area of Spain do you live in?

 

Had that report been about the UK, you'd be all over it like a rash. The fact you try to play it down is a sign of your bigotry and prejudice.

 

I suspect he lives in somewhere like Hessle.

 

Several, mainly Motril.