The EU debate - Part III

Were these actually exports to the EU?

Earlier this year the Office for National Statistics (ONS) published an article on the 'Rotterdam effect' (also known as the 'Rotterdam-Antwerp effect').

Goods exported to the EU don't necessarily stay in the EU. The Rotterdam-Antwerp effect is a suggested phenomenon where trade with the Netherlands and Belgium is exaggerated by British goods being shipped into the ports of Rotterdam and Antwerp and then dispatched elsewhere in the world.

https://fullfact.org/europe/do-half-uks-exports-go-europe/

 

Aye, I just said as much.
IF its spent where it is needed.

 

No I expect any tariff imposed to be passed onto consumers and therefore raise the cost of living.

 

The EU negotiates deals with others as a large trading block so that the individual countries of the EU don't have to do it themselves. They also carry far more weight in negotiations as a large entity.

The time and hassle needed to negotiate separately with each individual country would be enormous. Plus, as a far smaller trading entity you won't get the same deal.

 

If they dont spend them on services they could reduce the debt.
I dont think they will spend the money on house or expenses. Or was that an exaggeration?

 

http://www.politico.eu/article/eu-aerospace-industry-south-korea-exports-trade-deal/

 

No, you facetious tool.
There is precedent for that.

 

https://euobserver.com/economic/134385
Uncertainty stalks EU trade deals with US and Canada

"The European Commission’s legal service has said CETA only needs the approval of EU institutions - the Parliament and Council - because it only covers matters that are exclusive EU competence.

But commission president Jean-Claude Juncker agreed in the 11th hour to put the text to a vote by up to 38 national and regional parliaments.

He did so under pressure from Austria, France and Germany, who hope that this is the way to reign in anti-trade and eurosceptic feelings.

Ratifications could take five years or longer if some assemblies vote against it.

The EU executive hoped to speed up the process and protect the deal against rejections by asking the Council to approve a provisional application.

Rejections would be left to national governments to deal with, as is the case with the Ukraine association agreement that was rejected by a referendum in the Netherlands.

But last Thursday, Slovak trade council president Peter Ziga told the European Parliament’s international trade (INTA) committee he wasn't sure that ministers would agree on provisional application and said it definitely wouldn’t happen for CETA’s investment chapter.

"That would be a death sentence to CETA," Swedish MEP and INTA member Christofer Fjellner told EUobserver.

The right to negotiate trade policy has long been a core power of the EU. The Lisbon Treaty also put it in charge of investments.

As member states (and regions) now claim the right to veto EU authority, the bloc is bound to be the loser.

Fjellner said the EU jeopardised its credibility as a trading partner if it failed to implement the CETA deal, which took five years to work out.

This undermined its position in other fields as well, he added."

 

There is also precedent for you exaggerating.

 

This could prove problematic

http://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...-Scotland-inside-UK-Brexit-referendum-borders

 

There is also a precedent for you being.......No...rise above it!!
Do you want this thread closed again, Bottler?

 

You are the bottler. You are scared of insulting in a pub or on the terraces but you are braver on the internet.

 

Why are you trying to start another argument?

 

I'm not but you did.

 

Fair enough, shall we stop then, and go back to talking about the EU?

 

yes

 

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Sturgeon reckons she will keep free movement of EU citizens in Scotland, How in the hell would that work?

 

It could work if everybody agreed but I doubt that the UK would agree. At least with the border in Ireland it's not so easy to get to the rest of the UK if you are not a citizen of the UK or Ireland.

 

Really