They aren't the same thing, obviously.
The most basic education in Economics possible will tell you trade barriers will do us more harm than good.
The EU debate - Part III
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They aren't the same thing, obviously.
The most basic education in Economics possible will tell you trade barriers will do us more harm than good.
At worst it's as pointless as all the hypothesising and posturing on 500 pages or so so far based on little more than "we are the UK, what could possibly go wrong?".
If they want to invest in the EU they will just have to accept they will have to pay tariffs to sell to the UK. I think the UK speaking English is a big draw for many countries. It's not like tariffs are massive.
Which equally applies to those wanting to remain in what would become a revised EU. Staying in the EU, as was, was never really an option because of issues in the pipeline, such as the EU army, Police force plus other expansionist ideas that a remain vote would have empowered.
So how was my answer not clear to you. I said the first thing I wanted was no freedom of movement and I was willing to accept no access to the single market as well. I would have thought that answered your question.
You mean they might have the outline of a plan some 2.5 months after the vote? Bravo!
Now, all we need is May and dickhead Davis to get on the same page as to whether the single market is important ( of course it ****ing is!) and might start getting somewhere!...
Not to mention the Euro being forced on countries that are too weak economically to survive.
The Euro is fundamentally flawed. There will need to be big changes, or it won't survive.
2.5 months for such a momentus and complex piece of work is bloody good going.
There are some that didn't think they'd managed to do anything at all.
But they will do nothing until its too late, its a basket case now. Far to many cultural differences to make it work.
FTFY.
We were right not to join it. It was flawed from the start.
They will need at least a measure of fiscal integration, or the problems in Southern Europe will continue.
You need at least the outline of a plan. They didn't have one.
Basically nobody, not even scumbag Farage, thought they would win. When they did, it was panic stations!...
We'll see if anything of substance comes out of this meeting, or just more soundbites and such like.
The EU should have realised they needed a two class group of countries. Besides the Euro it is ridiculous to allow people living in countries with an average wage of less than £2 an hour to have the right to move to countries with a minimum wage of £7.20 per hour for adults.
"I'd rather have no freedom of movement and then negotiate on access to single market"
This is what you replied, as if they are two separate negotiations and those involved will agree to no freedom of movement and then just forget all about it when it comes to negotiating single access. Frankly, that's idealistic nonsense.
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