The EU debate - Part II

you dont remember comparing two sets of policies even when one set of policies didnt exist?

 

the former

 

I don't remember a lot of the things that you've attributed to me, but that's normally because you've attempted to strawman my point.
You quoted yourself, so I didn't even know that it was a reply to me. Which comment were you referring to?

 

I was wrong when I mentioned Pete displayed symptoms of autism as tonight he has gone beyond the spectrum.

"More insults"

 

I didnt mention his weight, I was talking about his bigotry, xenophobia and homophobia.

 

I didn't mention anyone specific it's just a general question.

Is there an occasion when it's acceptable?

 

So like The EU citizenship directive that gives us the ability to refuse entry to anyone we have grounds for beleiving will commit a crime.

If these gangs had already been recognised as criminals then we would be arresting them or refusing entry already.

The only criminals we would actually stop that we cant already is those with a former criminal record for a different crime that had not obtained a false identity in a less secure country.

 

https://fullfact.org/europe/explaining-eu-deal-deporting-eu-immigrants/

There have been a lot of cases at the EU court working out what the various terms mean, especially “public policy”. The Citizens’ Rights Directive sums them up by saying that:

• Public policy or public security decisions to deport someone should be “proportionate”, and based exclusively on the behaviour of the individual involved
• Previous criminal convictions aren’t on their own a valid reason to deport someone
• The person’s behaviour must be a “genuine, present and sufficiently serious threat affecting one of the fundamental interests of society”

First, the deal allows host countries to keep out or deport people whose behaviour is “likely (as opposed to “does”) to represent a genuine and serious threat to public policy or security”.

Second, the deal takes the emphasis away from present conduct by individuals to look much more closely at their past:

“In determining whether the conduct of an individual poses a present threat to public policy or security, Member States may take into account past conduct of the individual concerned”.

These changes don’t deliver on the Prime Minister’s previous proposals for “tougher and longer” re-entry bans for foreign rough sleepers, beggars and fraudsters. But they do qualify as “stronger powers to deport criminals and stop them coming back”.

 

I think the Remain side are only on this thread so they can work out their frustrations at losing the referendum by insulting the winning side.

 

I was a brexiter, ****tard!!
for the 90th time.

 

You think a lot Pete but the vast majority of what you post is bitter, failed, old man nonsense. If you weren't so dislikeable maybe your career and life would have amounted to more than what's in your very sad corporate biography.

 

He categorises people. It's what the ignorant the bitter and the scared do.

 

Don't shoot the messenger. Address people's arguments, please.

 

So? You still like to throw insults around. When did I say you voted Remain?

 

So was Watford who appears to be getting a fair bit of attention.

It's just a broken record. My vote three months ago mean bugger all and all I'm interested in is how my family and I will take advantage of the new status quo when it arrives.

 

Top grades though.

 

what messenger?
some of you spend a lot of your time throwing out insults

 

You didn't.
You just keep lumping me together with them.
And will you shut up about insults for crying out loud

1) When you have opinions that are negatively looked upon worldwide and decide to voice them, you are going to get insults thrown at you.

2) When you insult people whilst stating said backward opinions, you are going to get insults thrown at you

3) Welcome to the Internet, Old man!

 

So do you, you just don't accept that you do it.
You like to pigeonhole people and insult them, then hide behind a false veil of innocence. It's embarrassing.

 

Check Bo out throwing his weight around..calling rank.

Just ignore the thread if you don't like it.

I think it's a fascinating read.