The EU debate - Part II

Why would they demand that?

 

I agree, but May thinks otherwise, unless its a bargaining chip

 

Simple Stan on Holiday or is he back at school?

 

The usual bullshit from you.

The Japanese don't normally do things like this, it's a very unusual move from them. It's a clear warning that they are uneasy and concerned.!

But, you try and spin it anyway you want!

 

We're still in the EU

And I don't recall anyone saying that global business would simply just pack up and leave. What most said was that without a free trade agreement with the EU then the UK being a prime choice for companies looking to set up a base for production of products for the European market would be lost, and those already here would likely consider relocation to within the EU if tariffs came into force.

Or in other words, exactly what the Japanese have just ****ing said

 

Why is it better than doing it their normal way?

 

Erm, mine's based on what they themselves have said, yours is just your prediction.

Given your success rate with predictions is appalling, your guess would be closer to being bullshit than the quotes from the Japanese themselves.

 

Or paid to make it public

 

'The euro was flawed from birth' Nobel Prize-winner praises Brexit and warns Juncker
The former chief economist at the World Bank said large parts of the Eurozone face a depression which is "deeper than the Great Depression" where economic power is dominated by a single country.

The US economist believes the Euro was fundamentally "flawed from birth" but not beyond help if the eurozone evenly shares the burden of the cost of freedom of movement across the the continent.

 

So you helped him by suggesting something illogical.

How logical of you.

 

Fair point on being in the EU, it's easy to forget amidst the drama and wailing from some of you on here.

Your memory seems to have convenient gaps., and no, before you start bleating on, will I ****ers like go and find the prediction from your buddies of a mass exodus due to the referendum.

 

... undeniably the reason for his behaviour ... we need to get back to basics .. to victorian values ... just like John Major once said ... as he was putting a new spin on the phrase "Anyone else up for a curry?" ...

 

It is not based on what they've said at all, is it?
No, they don't WANT to leave, why go to the hassle of all the expense of its not necessary.

But, they've made it pretty clear that unless whatever deal we do gives
Their British operations free access into mainland Europe, they may well go!
That's what they're saying! or, maybe you preferred to readi it as' we just thought we'd go to the trouble of issuing a lengthy public statement saying how happy we are really and would never leave?'

 

The Japanese don't work like that, Custard.
As I've tried to tell Dull from Hull, it's a warning shot.

 

As with you've just proved with your error re: the UK's current status, your memory isn't the best is it chuckles?

I for one, made no prediction of a mass exodus post merely a vox pox poll. Nor did any of the businessmen who posted on the issue pre-vote on here, as it would have been nonsensical. What we discussed at length was our view on the post (actual) Brexit economic landscape, all of which will be dictated by the actual deal delivered by the 3 stooges.

I have said throughout that free trade is essential, I have also said throughout that it won't happen without free movement. Without the former you'll find that the likes of the Japanese will stop investing here, and over time many would move out. As a tariff deal makes no economic sense to them remaining here. Same goes for any other nations manufacturing bases that are here to produce good for the European market. The only caveat to that would be a company who was only producing here for the UK market alone.

 

Because he could have been making an illogical point and my help could have been useful in getting him to explain what he is talking about.
People do make illogical points. Remember when you said the USA wanted freedom of movement and when I pointed out they didn't you said freedom of movement doesn't mean freedom of all people to move. In fact you were referring to a very small proportion of workers. I hope you don't own a shop: "My goods are imported from Italy"; Shopper: "This is from India"; You: "When I said my goods are imported from Italy I didn't mean ALL my goods are imported from Italy. I was talking about 0.0001% of my goods."

 

"People say I look 20 years younger" - Peter Saxton

You've finally got one right Pete

 

The reason for his behaviour is that he likes young men. He acted like a lot of Remainers by talking rubbish when he was found out. He said it was the newspapers fault. He shouldn't be trying to buy illegal drugs or, as alleged, pay young men for sexual favours with money from a charity.

 

No I said TTIP included negotiation on movement of workers. At no point did I say all workers, that was your interpretaion.
The point you made was that there was no link between trade negotiations and movement of people, TTIP shows that from the point of view of those negotiating the deal that view is false.

 

You didn't qualify it. You said "free movement of workers"
Your exact sentence was: "Even in TTIP the US is asking for free movement of workers."
Are you now saying that people should understand that to mean only free movement for a small number of workers?
If I said to a company: "Your workers can have free access to this night club". Does that mean only a few workers could have free access?