The EU debate - Part II

The posts are still there Mr Scarecrow.

What race are immigrants?


One Labour MP said:"There's clearly a problem that needs to be dealt with and it's not right that well known figures in Labour like Jeremy and Diane and Len are constantly trying to downplay the issue when there is an problem that we need to address.

"People would have much more trust if we set out openly the scale of the issue we are facing and publish the number of people who have been suspended."

Labour was on Monday forced to suspended three councillors within seven hours over material on Twitter and Facebook.

 

What do Remain people do?
Nobody in the Conservative Party says "All people who voted to leave the EU are racist bigots".

 

We will agree to disagree about what created the environment. Personally I believe it goes back many years and relates to eurosceptics in the tory party that forced Cameron to promise a referendum.

 

So you don't think it was more due to the Conservative Party being worried that UKIP would steal votes from them?

 

Still nothing, shocked here.

I'm off for a game of golf, by the time I get back maybe you'll have had time to post the quotes that prove your accusation of racism by the posters you said were guilty of it.

Then again, probably not, you vacuous gobshite

 

They're still there Mr Scarecrow.

WHAT RACE ARE IMMIGRANTS?


A Labour MP apologised today after saying the only people with ‘coloured skin’ in his constituency run takeaways.

Wayne David made the remarks to BBC Radio Wales after being asked how much of an issue immigration is in Caerphilly in terms of the number of people coming in from abroad.

The 59-year-old married MP told presenter Jamie Owen in a live interview: ‘Well in terms of numbers it's not an issue. I mean the only people who have coloured skin, if you like, are people who run takeaways.

‘There are some workers who are migrant workers from the rest of the European Union but the numbers are relatively small. But nevertheless people are concerned about it.

 

**** me.,...

Are Dull from Hull, Pete, and God's Arsewipe still ****ing going!...-

I'm going for a swim!....

 

As the general election showed, UKIPs appeal is to widely spread to make a mark on parliament. I think much of UKIPs success was due to defections of tory donors as a result of the divisions in the tory party. This ultimately led to Cameron having to offer a referendum to try and settle the issue which for him backfired.
Conversely this may also mean UKIP will struggle to maintain its political momentum now the referendum has won Britain back.

 

I didn't say that UKIP would take seats from the Tories. I was thinking that UKIP could take votes from the Tories which could result in Labour taking the seats.

 

Can you find many examples where this occurred. If anything recent elections have suggested UKIP is weakening the Labour vote. Particularly in the north east and Wales.

 

It wouldn't happen because the Conservative manifesto promised a referendum if they won.

 

If you say so. Personally I think the general election is about more than one issue and UKIP can only get so much traction. The referendum pledges have been flying around for years, Cameron was the last one holding the parcel before it blew up in his face.

 

General election is more than one issue of course but the commitment did help to keep some voters voting Conservative rather than UKIP. The most UKIP voters would have wanted would have been a referendum - they would never get a government taking the UK out of the EU - so Conservatives were the party to vote for. When was a previous time that there was a referendum commitment in the Conservative Party manifesto? I don't think there was one.

 

Cameron was a selfish twat for gambling the UK's future, to try and quell rifts in his own party.

 

Despite what Cameron said, neither of the main party manifestos offered an opportunity to leave the EU. The Labour Party offered a referendum on the latest treaty only.

 

It worked out well, though, didn't it!

 

did it? we have no idea how it'll work out as we haven't even left yet, a point continually lost on the moronic who point to what hasn't happened yet as proof that everything is hunky dory, although afaia the pound still hasn't recovered from it's 10-15% post vote fall

 

I was referring to leaving the EU which is an undemocratic organisation and being able to make our own decisions.
What's not to like about that?

 

Thats politics for you.

He was/is eurosceptic himself, he has many times said the EU was crap