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Historical Inaccuracies in Movies

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Medro, Aug 4, 2011.

  1. Medro

    Medro Well-Known Member

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    I'll get the ball rolling with this one;

    Braveheart

    When asked by a local why the Battle of Stirling Bridge was filmed on an open plain, Gibson answered that "the bridge got in the way". "Aye," the local answered. "That's what the English found."

    Wallace's real wife was named Marian, but it was changed to Murron to avoid confusion with the Robin Hood character of the same name.

    Prince Edward (later King Edward II) was indeed the first English prince to carry the title Prince of Wales, although he did not marry Princess Isabella until 1308, after both Wallace (1305) and Edward I (1307) had died.

    Blue body paint for battles had stopped being used around the end of the Roman era - roughly 800 years before the events of the film.

    English soldiers had no uniform during the Scots Wars of Independence.

    Princess Isabella did not set foot in England until 1308, therefore she could not have been in England to warn Wallace about the upcoming Battle of Falkirk.

    While the movie took great care to depict several groups all dressed alike in their representative tartans the use of clan tartans and any organized rules for kilts and patterns was a Victorian invention, much later than the time of the movie.

    The Gaelic chant is "Alba gu brath", which means Scotland forever. Although Wallace was a Lowlander, many of his troops were Highlanders, and a large part of the Lowlands were still Gaelic speaking at this time in history.

    William Wallace gives a speech in which he says the famous quote "Every man dies - Not every man really lives." This famous quote commonly attributed to the "Braveheart" character was actually authored by a 19th Century American Poet whose name was William Ross Wallace, famous for writing the poem "The Hand That Rocks The Cradle Is The Hand That Rules The World", who is of no relation to the William Wallace in the film.

    In reality the Irish were allied with the English against Wallace.

    The film was criticized for completely ignoring the reason why England had invaded Scotland (because the Scots were allied with France and Norway in a war against England).

    In reality it was Robert the Bruce who was known as "Braveheart", not William Wallace.

    The English never used primae noctae in Scotland.

    In the movie Wallace is jumped, beaten down, and captured at Edinburgh Castle; in real-life, Wallace was captured near Glasgow.
     
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  2. Bhoy From Brum

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    Harry Potter is fake as **** too <ok>
     
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  3. VenomPD

    VenomPD Merrick jr

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    <laugh>

    Aye kids like that would get a doing at any London train station
     
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  4. The Raging Oxter

    The Raging Oxter Well-Known Member

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    And Wallace was a Hun <grr>
     
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  5. Bhoy From Brum

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    Harry Potter?
     
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    Deleted 1 Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Scandal - there was no mention of John Profumo doing Christine Keeler up the arse.
     
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  7. RebelBhoy

    RebelBhoy Moderator Staff Member

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    Michael Collins was not at the same place as eamon DeValera during easter week in 1916. It completely ruined that movie for me.
    Just a joke, chill the **** out....
     
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    You'll be telling me Star Wars isn't ****ing true next<grr>
     
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  9. Medro

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    It's based on a true story
     
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  10. Medro

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    U-571

    American screenwriter David Ayer depicted American rather than British naval officers capturing the first Enigma machine, &#8220;in order to drive the movie for an American audience.&#8221; The first Enigma machine was in fact seized by officers from HMS Bulldog in 1941 and by the time the USA joined the war later that year, Britain had cracked the code. The post-release furore led Tony Blair, Prime Minister at the time, to agree that it was &#8220;an affront to the memories&#8221; of those involved and Bill Clinton, then US President, to write a letter emphasising the film&#8217;s fictional nature. In 2006, Ayer told the BBC he had come to regret the alteration: &#8220;Both my grandparents were officers in World War II, and I would be personally offended if somebody distorted their achievements.&#8221;

    10,000 BC

    This tale of a mammoth hunter travelling across the prehistoric globe to rescue his bride, features some surprising revelations. Were sabre-tooth tigers bull-sized? Could man train Woolly Mammoths to help build pyramids? Did we invent sailing boats so early? Unfortunately the answer to all these questions is no. In fact, the filmmakers incorporated so many animals then extinct, or yet to evolve, and so many future technologies and geographical impossibilities that Archaeology magazine was compelled to review - and pan it: &#8220;Unsurprisingly, this tribe is starving, but it is hard to have sympathy for them because any culture that tries to hunt mammoths with a net gets what it deserves.&#8221;

    The Patriot

    Gibson (rugby) tackles history again with his turn as an honest farmer drawn into the American Revolutionary War, which historian David Hackett Fischer claimed in the New York Times &#8220;is to history as Godzilla was to biology.&#8221; Crimes erroneously attributed to British soldiers include immolating villagers inside their church, an atrocity actually committed a century and a half later by Nazis in the French village of Oradour-sur-Glane. Meanwhile the director Spike Lee complained that the film &#8220;dodged around, skirted about or completely ignored slavery.&#8221; There is also strong evidence that Francis Marion, the basis for Gibson&#8217;s character, was a slave-owning serial rapist who murdered Cherokee Indians for fun

    Gladiator

    Joaquin Phoenix&#8217;s Commodus is a coward who lusts after his sister Lucilla and murders his father, Marcus Araelius. In reality Commodus&#8217;s accession ended Pax Romana, two centuries of peace and minimal expansion by the empire and he has been described as a capricious show-off. But his father probably died of smallpox and far from falling in love with Lucilla, Commodus had her murdered after her involvement in an assassination attempt upon him. Ultimately, he was strangled in the bathtub by the wrestler Narcissus after twelve years of rule, not as the film asserts, while a new emperor, in a gladiatorial arena at the hands of Maximus &#8211; a fictional general based on Narcissus.
     
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    A Shot At Glory

    Because the huns in the movie weren't all getting drunk, smashing up cities, raping the locals and singing the sash.
     
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  12. Bhoy From Brum

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    Hollyoaks:

    Brendan Brady is from Belfast, but his son (Keith Duffys son in real life) has a Dublin accent!
     
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  13. VenomPD

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    <laugh> I forgot you watch all the soaps ya queerhawk
     
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    Escape to Victory - pele actually passed the ball a couple of times rather than just selfishly going for goal on his own. Over rated **** bag.
     
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    [video=youtube;p6i9Mu-9qfI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6i9Mu-9qfI&feature=player_detailpage[/video]
     
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    The US army did not win the Battle of Thermopylae.
     
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  17. Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction

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    it never showed them fighting in the same place, just rounded up into the same place after surrender and capture
     
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  18. Hash.

    Hash. pure daycent

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    back to the future ........ there is no hover boards <grr>
     
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  19. RebelBhoy

    RebelBhoy Moderator Staff Member

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    they still didn't go to the same place. shame, it could have been good
     
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  20. Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction

    Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction Well-Known Member

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    There is alot of that film that plays up to artistic license. Great film nonetheless I thought
     
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