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The EU debate - Part II

Discussion in 'The Premier League' started by PINKIE, Jul 19, 2016.

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  1. steveninaster1

    steveninaster1 Well-Known Member

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    Those whose constituency voted to leave with vote for Brexit, sheep will follow the whip and many others have already made clear that they will respect the referendums decision, my own MP included.

    The chances of anything other than a vote for Brexit is as close to zero as makes no odds.
     
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  2. Tobes

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    The referendum was a vox pox poll at a given point in time.

    If there was a vote in the Commons it'd be for each and every MP to vote the way that their constituents were telling them in the present. It'd be their responsibility to reflect the consensus in the present, not the past.
     
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  3. The RDBD

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    If you are an MP that wishes to vote remain if allowed to so in Parliament,
    but the electorate in your constituency voted emphatically to leave
    (or vice-versa) , then there is a disconnect between your intent and those
    you represent.
     
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  4. The RDBD

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    Sure.
    And if the current consensus is contrary to their position, to vote according
    to the will of the electorate (not differently, not abstain etc) .
     
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  5. steveninaster1

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    Exactly the only way a company has benefited in terms of foreign raw material costs is if the pound has strengthened against that currency.
    Does not matter if the currency you are comparing to is strong or weak, what matters is whether it strengthens or weakens in relation to the pound.
     
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    I think we're getting ahead of ourselves here. May has already said that she intends to invoke article 50 without a vote. That, as discussed before, is very liable to be challenged in the courts.

    Depending on the outcome of any legal challenge, the Gvt will have to decide how it intends to proceed from there.

    Again, depending on the amount of time it may take for this to drag on in various legal challenges, attitudes may have changed.

    We wont really know anymore if and until May tries to act, and if the promised legal challenges then appear.
     
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  7. Stan

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    Top windmilling. Stan inspires many in lots of different ways.

    Nice avatar by the way. Happy felching.
     
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  8. The RDBD

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    The flawed comment was that only UK companies that have a domestic market
    are not bothered by the Leave result. I easily showed that a company that does
    export can similarly go meh, if their "raw material" costs are domestic, or from
    importing said materials from nations whose exchange rates have not benefited
    from the currency market antics post referendum.

    That is all.
     
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  9. NSIS

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    It's fairly simple. If the exchange rate of your currency has fallen against those of your main trading partners, and more importantly, against the main international trading currency, the US$, then your imports will be more expensive as you have to pay more of your own currency to buy the goods.
     
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  10. Stan

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    <laugh>

    You're a Mini-Me!
     
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    The apparent decision to not have a vote and instead try and use the Royal prerogative is odd in the extreme. As the vote would almost certainly be carried anyway.

    Surely they know that this will see the process slowed by an obvious legal challenge, that could prove to be protracted.

    A sceptic might think this was a tactic to slow the process down....
     
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  12. The RDBD

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    Inspiring trivial counter-examples to his claims, certainly.


    "Nice avatar by the way."

    You should direct your praise to Cornish Clive (whose then avatar I copied) .
     
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  13. steveninaster1

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    I know,
    So which nations are we talking about?
    So do you think increased fuel transport costs will impact domestic prices?
     
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    Good point, Tobes. A cynic might think so...<whistle>
     
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    Given I am 5'8" , this must be the only time on a public Internet forum where
    the question "How tall are you ??" is not meant to detect children.
     
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  16. Stan

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    You tie yourself in knots just like your Dr. Evil <laugh>

    steveninaster1 has got you on a leash.
     
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    God knows.
    The point was to show the possibility exists, not that it has been made flesh.
     
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  18. Stan

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    So you "easily showed" I was wrong by presenting a counter argument that you can't support.

    Brilliant.
     
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  19. The RDBD

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    My "Dr Evil" ??


    "steveninaster1 has got you on a leash."

    I can see why you would think/hope that.
     
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    The public are more aware than you give them credit for.
     
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