The EU debate - Part II

I thought it might have some relevant to the quote. So it was just a random question?

 

I don't think Lightning Stan wants to deal with anyone who can demolish
his comments with near-zero effort and no offensive language.
He could of course try to deflect from that with some attempted "banter" .

 

Surely you can work it out if you think about it. If not then don't let it bother you.

 

To answer your question: Not if MPs believe in democracy.

 

Do you think they believe in democracy?

 

Is it?

 

Not all of them. Lammy and Smith don't. They haven't accepted the referendum vote.

 

Yes. Almost as simple as the one I'm answering now.

 

Theresa May chairs cabinet Brexit brainstorm at Chequers
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37219143

It's good to see that we have a leader who gets on with things.

 

http://www.bakertillyinternational....ap-includes-ecs-anti-avoidance-proposals.aspx

1. So if the UK was not an EU member, it has benefited from adopting legislation
made elsewhere, without incurring the cost/speed/tedium of participating in its creation.

2. The UK is free to put in its own legislation that the EU either did not consider or
do not agree with.

Hmm ...

 

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Or historically are / have been weaker against GBP for a long time.

 

So it'd be more democratic to use the Royal Prerogative to steam roller it through, than it would to use the correct procedure of a Commons debate to repeal the 1972 act which saw us join the EU?

Democracy when it suits eh....

#standard

 

I'll rephrase to save time. Do you think there are enough MPs who would vote against Brexit for it to matter whether parliament has a vote or not?

 

That is an irrelevance. If the pound hasn't strengthened against them then the cost of goods bought from those countries will be the same or more expensive.

 

I doubt there are enough MPs who would vote against to overturn the result.
However the number who would vote against does matter, in that it would
again show the degree of disconnect between Parliament and the electorate.

 

I don't know. It depends how many MPs realise that the referendum was a vote of the people and then more relevant than a vote of MPs.

 

If the exchange rates are the same, then so are the import costs.
Exchange rates remaining constant does not equal exchange rates weakening.

 

Or reflect the proportion of electorate that voted for/against.
In which case how would it show a disconnect?

 

The MPs are probably more aware of the real consequences of Brexit than most voters, who were lied to and misled by by Leave and Remain spokespersons, as we all know now.