Well nobody would be surprised if that happened! If it came to january there would be many clubs in for him so tbh i'm not that confident we'd get him. Plus the fact he wouldn't exactly be match fit by then! Surely he's worth £5m now? When i think of all the times we have paid over the odds for bang average players...this lad is next level and we are now piss farting about!
I fully agree with you and the club mate, but there's a gamble involved here as well. We'e seen what he can do, we know he's got quality, what if we hold out and another club step in for him? I'm not saying the club should be held to ransom or owt like that, far from it, but we'e shelled out far more on lesser players, at least we know that for £5-6m we're getting a proven quality player. Or we get him to sign a pre-contract agreement for January and wait it out? Get Iborra in and maybe Mason and see what they can do.
I'd guess that M'Vila is owed some sort of bonus, or severance fee, that Rubin don't want to pay. It's probably why there's been no transfer request reported.
If he ****s off to another club then it's nee **** fault but Shorty's. £5m is **** all on a player of this lads calibre & one we could easily make a good profit on. Moyes has already stated we're not in the same market as Palace or Bournemouth. What the **** is actually going on at the SOL ffs!
There's more to this than a £5m fee, I'd be gobsmacked if no club in the league had taken the option to buy him for £5m, given how useful he was last season.
FWIW - I reckon there's a pre-contract in place so he'll be here in January. It's pure speculation on my part with absolutely no evidence but it's a hunch I've got - which means he can;t sign for anyone but us if he doesn't leave in this window. I reckon we're playing hardball with Kazan about him and the fee. But if, as I have heard this morning from a lad I work with, the Iborra fee has been declined, we need him in before tomorrow night!
I'm fairly certain that Sevilla have announced the bid has been accepted, but they want cover in for him before they are willing to let him go.
http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/spor...derland-afc-transfers-vicente-iborra-11817119 Having initially accepted Sunderland's offer, Sevilla have now rejected a bid for Vicente Iborra with the player reluctant to move to England COMMENTS Aitor Alcalde/Getty Images please log in to view this image Vicente Iborra Sunderland are set to miss out on Vicente Iborra after Sevilla had a change of heart. The La Liga club had agreed to sell the 27-year-old midfielder to the Black Cats, but have changed their mind late in the day. Iborra and Sevilla were always slightly lukewarm about the transfer, but the amounts of money involved in terms of wages and transfer fee were expected to tip the balance. But the player is settled in Spain, and it is thought his reluctance to uproot his family was a factor in Sevilla performing a U-turn. Iborra’s entire career has been spent in his homeland. With the new television money flowing into the club’s coffers this season, Sunderlandcould try to wade in with an offer which tips the balance, but they must weigh up the value of signing a player who is clearly reluctant to come. The initial bid was thought to be in the region of £7m. Sevilla, winners of the last three Europa Leagues, were under pressure not to sell having already allowed the clearout which saw Kevin Gameiro, Grzegorz Krychowiak, Fernando Llorente Coke and Ever Banega to leave Andalucia this summer. The Wearsiders’ bid was only accepted last week, and Sevilla were unable to find a suitable replacement. Even with Iborra still at the club and Franco Vazquez, Joaquín Correa. Ganso, Wissam Ben Yedder and Hiroshi Kiyotake arriving at a total cost of £45m, they are still on the lookout for more midfielders to bolster numbers. Iborra is set for a reduced role under new coach Jorge Sampaoli, but he remains a popular figure at the Ramon Sanchez Pizjuan, and captained the side in the Spanish Super Cup final. The news is a blow to David Moyes , who needs to add quality to a midfield well stocked with ball-winners but light on goalscorers. Sunderland are still hoping to close out a deal for Tottenham Hotspur’s Ryan Mason in the face of competition from Hull City, but they will now seek to re-invest the money they had set aside for Iborra before Wednesday’s 11pm transfer deadline. The Black Cats are also light at centre-forward, on the wing, and for the next three months in goal after Vito Mannone injured his elbow in training. They could also do with an extra central defender even if they do succeed in keeping Ivorian Lamine Kone at the club. ---------------------------- Although it is the Chronic!
I've just posted the same thing, mate. We were both right it seems. A bid had been accepted but they have pulled out now. Gutted, he's a quality player.
There's other rumours that we've gone back in with £9m and it's been accepted! As you say, quality players are worth paying for - haven't seen much of this lad but am taking the word of yourself and other on here that he's worth double the reported original fee (and lads I work with say the same). If it comes off then great - otherwise on we go - twitter saying that Sevilla and Ruben Kazan constantly moving the financial goalposts with Iborra and M'Vila respectively - but it is just gossip on twittedr of course!
His agent will be pushing for this more than a transfer. He went to Kazan FFS, that shows what sort of agent he has/had.
I suspect they'll be a lot of bluffing going on by clubs, at the moment. It's how negotiations work at this late stage, see who blinks first. I've no doubt we will be using our targets to play off against other clubs who's players we are chasing. I suspect they'll be a lot of late movement, with us. Hold on tight!
There is more to the Mvila saga than meets the eye, why has not other club give in for him? Why when Southampton showed an interest it died off very quickly. It could be because he has signed a pretty contract, it could be because he himself does not want a move until his contract expires so is asking for a stupid deal? Who knows, I just hope we have a pretty contract and we are playing poker with Kazan over who pays his wages for the next 6 months.
Cant beat a pretty contract. Does it also have a small whiff of cherry blossom. Thats a deal clincher.
Me neither, the deal should have been sealed in the summer, we risk losing a key element to the team for a few million, what planet are our negotiators on. By the sounds of it we are set to loose Mason to Hull and Iborra to whoever, we are not at the races and leaving everything to the wire is lunacy.
