That was tongue in cheek by the way the way. Jocks should be told to get ****ed and the Welsh should be kicked out of our leagues.
Amsterdam is probably easier to get to from London, than Glasgow is. **** it lets bring Ajax over. The dutch league is **** anyway.
if anyone is suggesting v Swansea or even v Burnley is more appealing then v Old Firm I simply can't agree.
Not suggesting that at all. Just suggesting they are Scottish so should stay in Scotland. If we want to play them competitively then we'll just have to qualify for Europe.
Well they are two massive clubs with huge, very partisan support. Would be interesting to see how it panned out.
I just don't like the idea that we are going to ruin a lot of Scottish football clubs. That's going to be a massive part of hundreds of thousands of people's lives, we are playing with. Football is a big deal wherever you go.
I get that side, I guess in reality for it to happen they'd have to combine the entire Scottish League, but that would never pass a vote. Then, Rangers & Celtic likely would offer to give up their SFA licences and they'd be ****ed anyway. It is a tough thing to work out.
apart the nationalistic crap they also have all this religious bollocks going on up there...let them keep it...we don't need it. And...by the way, kick the welsh out, those sheep shaggers have their own league as well.
and if they were allowed in and we were regularly kept out of the premier league at their expense. that wont sit well with me either.
Still don't like the idea of an English team being kept out of the English premier league by a Scottish team. No matter how well they do to get there (which they will sooner rather than later) Swansea have done superbly to get where they are, and I've nothing against them or the welsh, but i'd still rather have an English team taking their place in the premier league.
Well said, '83. We're talking about what was once a great footballing nation. It was only in 1987 that Munchengladbach came to Tannardice and got slapped 5-0. The first British semi-finalists in European club competition was Hibernian, the first British European Cup winners was Celtic, etc. Scottish football is in a very poor state now, but, as Wales and N. Ireland have shown just this year, they can recover. But I can't see how Scottish football can ever do that without the revenue generated by Rangers and Celtic. So I hope they'll stay there, for that reason.
That's all very idealistic mate, it can't recover to the level of those heydays. The game is simply too global and financially driven now, there is no appeal to anyone outside Scotland to watch sub par football in dilapidated stadiums with 2,000 folk in them. The game up there, or the league format, it simply isn't recoverable sadly, the Old Firm and maybe Aberdeen and Hearts & Hibs at a push are the only clubs with any hint of viability and commercial possibility, and they will never grow as they are. Make no mistake Celtic & Rangers are incredible football clubs and would over time thrive on a bigger stage.
I agree it doesn't look likely now. But Wales have just done better this year than at any time since the 1958 World Cup in Sweden. Chile are doing better in S. American competition now than at any time since 1962 (World Cup in Chile). It can and does happen.
But that's firmly due to their players playing away from home mate, there's a lot of money in Mexican football and South American nations are benefitting from that. The Chilean league and the Welsh league are of an awful standard, the improvement in the national sides, well that's in spite of this. There simply isn't the passion and support in Scotland for anyone outside the top 4 clubs to sustain and grow it, historically bigger clubs are out of the SPL as they cannot finance the clubs, there's no TV money, there's no gate money. It's impossible mate it's not a recoverable situation, a product can only be as strong as its demand.
