The EU debate - Part II

Pound in longest rally since Brexit vote as Janet Yellen says case for US rate hike has 'strengthened'

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business...ttention-turns-to-fed-rate-hike-timing-ahead/

 

This had to happen. The Commons would have voted to block it which would have effectively meant that the UK is not a true democracy. The people were given the chance to make a choice. The fact that many didn't know what they were voting for and are/will be disappointed with the outcome is now irrelevant.

I can't see another PM calling a referendum for a very long time!

 

no

 

We dont get many, to be fair, but least it will piss off Labour and any manifesto it tries to produce about keeping the UK in the EU.

 

I don't see the point of a Commons vote. The vote of the people always trumps the vote of MPs who only represent the people.

 

So what is "obvious" given that you would never live in a town unless in majority christian and English born?

 

So why do some think they can change it via the courts, is this just a waste of time or can the courts force the gov, because Im sure Parliment is the highest court in the land

 

Views on the pound Stan, its on a bit of a rally, you still think it will drop much further?

 

Lord Sainsbury paid £8MILLION to help fund campaign to stop Brexit

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/704328/Lord-Sainsbury-paid-8MILLION-fund-campaign-stop-Brexit

Such a fool

 

It's only if the court thinks that parliament has not covered some legality properly. Parliament gave the authority to the referendum result via the European Union Referendum Act 2015.

 

Jack Straw has admitted that opening Britain's borders to Eastern European migrants was a "spectacular mistake".

The former Labour Home Secretary said his party's decision to allow migrants from Poland and Hungary to work in Britain from 2004 was a ‘"well-intentioned policy we messed up".

It comes a day after David Blunkett, Mr Straw's successor as Home secretary, warned British cities could face riots as an influx of Roma migrants creates "frictions" with local people.

The last Labour government predicted that only 13,000 would move to Britain from Poland and other eastern European countries after 2004.

However, more than one million arrived in one of the biggest waves of immigration seen in this country.

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Labour leader Ed Miliband has promised to deter firms from exclusively employing workers from overseas, admitting his party "got it wrong" on immigration when in government.

He said Gordon Brown and Tony Blair should not have allowed uncontrolled immigration from new EU states in 2004

.Many in the party blamed the effects on immigration, including the lowering of wages and pressures on social services, for the scale of Labour's defeat in the 2010 general election.

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...ex-Labour Cabinet minister John Denham had written to Chancellor Gordon Brown and Home Secretary Charles Clarke to warn the new arrivals were having a huge impact.

He said the Government failed to recognise what was happening in constituencies like his own in Southampton, where wages were driven down by as much as 50 per cent, A&E departments came under strain and 1,000 migrants attempted to sign up for an English-as-a-second language course in a single day.

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Labour sent out ‘search parties’ for immigrants to get them to come to the UK, Lord Mandelson has admitted.

In a stunning confirmation that the Blair and Brown governments deliberately engineered mass immigration, the former Cabinet Minister and spin doctor said New Labour sought out foreign workers.

He also conceded that the influx of arrivals meant the party’s traditional supporters are now unable to find work.

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Andrew Neather, a previously unheard-of speechwriter for Blair, Straw and Blunkett, popped up with an article in the Evening Standard in October 2009 which gave the game away.

Immigration, he wrote, ‘didn’t just happen; the deliberate policy of Ministers from late 2000…was to open up the UK to mass immigration’.

He was at the heart of policy in September 2001, drafting the landmark speech by the then Immigration Minister Barbara Roche, and he reported ‘coming away from some discussions with the clear sense that the policy was intended - even if this wasn’t its main purpose - to rub the Right’s nose in diversity and render their arguments out of date’.

 

A very minor "rally" based on news from the US. I still think it will drop further. Even if it doesn't the GBP is still weaker than it was pre-referendum. That is indisputable and I don't think the intention of any vote or government should be to make a country weaker. It's like celebrating finishing 5th because not so long ago you finished 7th and ignoring the fact that you used to finish 1st or 2nd!

 

That well known saying: "The Conservative Party governs and the Labour Party complains" will be right for a long time. Nothing is going right for the fools. It's because the party they support is as incompetent as themselves.

 

Unlike many other nations, we've always been multi-cultural. More recent "experiments" have produced a collection of mono-cultures.

Even the people that initiated and those that managed the concept admit it's failed.

 

But you cant always be first or second and have to take a hit for the team to become bigger and stronger.

The UK was the worlds biggest economy 150 years ago, now we are 5th, Brexit will help us raise to 3rd/4th over the coming years , if the Gov deregulates the UK from the EU crap.

 

UKIP and the Conservatives have taken all the sensible working class vote away from the Labour Party and just left a rump of left wing loonies.

 

Fantacist

Like tobes

 

I agree that the way that it's been managed has been poor. I'd hate to think though that those who believe multiculturalism can't work could ever gain any kind of power. Comments like Kustard's in my sig may be the flippant remarks of bigots who haven't really ventured outside of their home patch but they are far too common in what is supposed to be an enlightened society.

 

Based on what? Nigel told you? So are we going to overtake Japan or Germany? And India, that massive country, aren't going to continue to grow?

You do come out with some nonsense Kustard.

 

We'd all have to decide and agree on what multiculturalism is first.

Has China got it wrong?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-20083309

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/craig-and-marc-kielburger/chinas-diversity-doesnt-m_b_125967.html