Quite interesting , slight change in the Law since this was broadcast. The driver and the registered keeper are liable
Unfortunately, that's exactly how it works. I once encountered this (careful ever since), but I had visited a client, I told them I was not happy with his parking arrangements (Parking Eye if memory serves ... ), I discovered he could register a limited number of staff cars and that 'visitors' he nominated could have exemption. He appealed mine and rubbed it out; so, perhaps, have a word with the manager. Don't hold your breath, though.
I believe they already have access to keeper details through the DVLA...?.... I know they're based next to Thorpe Park in Leeds..
Another thing they do (as on my case - separate post ) they claim an administrator fee - £10 - 30 - tell them to swivel; they'really shown their hand.
This is very good advice (if a store owner won'the back you), spot on. If you get a letter from The Omega Man, be afraid, very afraid ... only joking
I don'the defend the ****e system, I just think it should be clearer, as they have a right to charge a moderate rate, it's their land. What really pissed me off over the last couple of years are supermarkets, services, that had 4 hrs free parking for years and it quietly became 2 hrs. My mates wife had he hair done, did her shop, met her pal for a coffee and got fined - mind, she is a gabby sod. Life's a box of ...
Thing is though mate who in their right mind goes to town, parks at Staples/ American Golf car park, buys a box of golf balls, gets back into car and finds somewhere else to park in order to go to another shop 200 metres from where he bought his golf balls from? That sentence was deliberately long by the way. It's false economy fining the likes of me and Wildie because they have lost further custom.
Same thing happened to me. At the time I lived in a flat with a residents car park, my flat had a parking space but I didn't yet have the permit for my windscreen because the estate management were useless. They said to park there and just leave a note, flat number and phone number and that the parking wardens wouldn't leave tickets. A long story short, after three years and a court case they end up getting over £1500 off me for parking in a space which actually belonged to me. Anyone that says ignore them or fight the charges is a fool, my advice would be to lodge an appeal when you get the ticket, if that fails pay them and move on, the alternative just isn't worth it.
This isn't true, there was a landmark case last year, which all parking companies now use in their defence whereby the amount the are awarded doesn't have to equate to their loss. I can't remember the specifics of it (I can dig it out if you want), but essentially, it means their fines are justifiable and the actual loss is meaningless.
Luton its easier to park at ibis hotel outside airport till people have their bags,stansted there is a services at the roundabout before entering express pick up and drop off area,gatwick a macdonalds at south terminal 60 minutes free parking. Heathrow terminals 1,2,3 there is a row of shops just outside airport you can park at till people have there luggage,and terminal 4 and 5 if you turn left or right past the airports there is parking areas down the road that are free.
I am aware of the case ; Barry Beavis v Parking Eye I was being a bit flipant due to the nature of these threads. The key to getting out of these PCN's is to demonstrate to the satisfaction of the court there is no contract between the parties in the first place. Arguing whether the charge is too high etc is secondary. If you had a solicitor he or she should be shot for recommending you proceed to court without a good case as it turns out.
It was Bevis vs Parking Eye Effectively the case was that loss could not apply to a car parking overstay, when there was no charge for parking, but a limit was set for how long you could park for free. There was no loss to measure as in this particular case there was no charge to park at all. The judges felt that £85 was a reasonable charge. This does not apply if there is a charge and you do not pay it as there is a measurable loss. Applying the same ruling to a car park where free parking only applies to shoppers is another kettle of fish.
I would add that if you are taken to court you will have an option to go for telephone mediation prior to the hearing. This is a site I would recommend http://www.which.co.uk/consumer-rights/advice/how-to-appeal-a-parking-ticket-on-private-land I would also add that if you stop on the access road at Bournemouth Airport next week and I miss my ****ing flight, because of you. The passengers that you drop off will not be catching their ****ing plane either!
This is sort of right, couple of things to bear in mind: Local authority (or any other legal authourity) tickets MUST be paid, these are underwritten by bye-laws are technically fines. If you fail to pay these you can be taken to court for non-payment of fines. Local authorities and legal authouritis include traffic wardens, CPO (community protection officers), PCSO and the like. Private companies can demand payment for use of services, such as using their parking bays. These tickets are are essentially a bill for using their services and no following the terms of conditions (eg not displaying a ticket), and therefore not legally binding. If a company wants to enforce these payments they need to go to county court as it is a "civil" matter, the court will decide if it's reasonable to make you pay. Most companies will not go to court as it costs too much and is not worth their time (I know a guy who worked for NCP, and providing you didn't accrue numerous tickets they would never peruse a non- payment. In short if you get a ticket check to see who issued it: Local or legal authourity - ring up and pay ASAP (may get a discount) Private company - completely ignore it until you get a court summons (if this happens contact company and say you never received original ticket but will pay original fee), if you want to take the chance. if you are taking this action DO NOT answer any letter from this (this would show you are "aware" of the debt)
