Rob Green?? Why FFS??

Journals article on being in talks with barnetta mentioned that pardew is keen to bring rob green to the club in exchange for frazer forster?

I’ve got to say that makes about as much sense as just randomly firing forster out of a cannon.

We have one of the best goal keeping prospects in England and he wants to trade him in for an older ex England international who for my money isn’t even as good as Steve Harper?

Seems completely crazy. It would be totally detrimental. He might as well sell krul while he’s on too since he’d want to be away as well if he thought he had to sit as 3rd choice behind harper and green. Totally senseless.

 

Good God no.

 

I agree, don't rate Green at all and if anything it would unsettle the better quality keepers we already have.

Probably bullshit too, Green would want higher wages than any of our current crop.

 

Does this mean Harper's possibly being forced out too?

It better not be!

 

i know forster had a howler against leeds, but he's won the golden gloves for his loan sides the last two seasons. he's probably already a better than green now.

 

I hope this is a just a sick joke or some lazy journo. Rob Green is absolute garbage and the goalkeeping area is the one thing we don't need to be fannying around with. Forster out on loan, the other two fight it out. Harper first choice for me at present.

 

we are in a great position for goalies, why would we want green ??? and waste 3m on crap

 

I'll admit, at first I didn't really see the logic in this signing, then the more you look at it, the more it starts to seem a little more reasonable.

Firstly, don't over-romanticise Forster, he is good at best, I've been watching him for 4 years now, at reserve level and at Celtic last season, and he is definitely NOT a future England goalkeeper, it's a shame as he's a local lad, but he is not, and will never be anywhere near as good as Krul.

I think that like most clubs we are looking at a goalkeeping 'unit' that has a balance of experience, talent and depth. At present, you may say we already have this but I'd beg to differ. Harper is here for one more year, and his powers are on the wain, Krul is the better keeper already, so you'd wonder what more he can learn from him. Green on this other hand - like it or not - is an international-level keeper who put in some exceptional performances last season, and will be able to improve Krul's keeping with his knowledge, and will be around for a number of years. Whichever one of these two is the number one, they'll be pushed all the way by the other for seasons to come.

Forster will never push Krul, he's not as good and won't be, he'll become a decent keeper somewhere, but he's not up to the required standard, and so will never offer genuine competition and also won't get game time to develop any further. I'd imagine this season Harper will be third choice, no matter who comes in, but if we get Green, instead of having an average second choice and an in-experienced number 1 we'll have a far more solid unit which will allow us to loan on Soderberg for the season and then make him or Alnwick - England U20 keeper - third choice/development keeper next season, whilst ensuring the first team have GENUINE depth and quality in an extremely important position for seasons to come.

 

You make some good points, it can't be denied that Green has been exceptional in certain games last season. I think Forster is one to give up on as, ultimately, he just isn't good enough to get 1st team games over Krul or Harper.
I wouldn't actually mind Green joining as long as he's cheap and isn't instantly installed as 1st choice keeper!

 

All I'll say is have you actually watched Green? He is a great shot stopper some say. Well I think its more a case of he was behind the worst defence in the league (ask Leon), and he had plenty of shots to save. Krul is better than Green. Harper is better than Green. Therefore why would we sign Green. Personally I rate Harper highly and think he still has the edge on Krul at present. But Krul could be anything in years to come. He's just about there and we are getting into a Given/Hart situation. Why we'd introduce Green into that scenario is beyond me. I would admit I've seen Green have some unbelieveable games. But he is inconsistent and when he's bad, he's ****ing terrible! He may be classed as international keeper but he is lucky we have had such problems in the area, because he'd have got nowhere near at any time in the past. Happy with the two we have and to be patient with Forster with another loan. Keepers in general are better post 30. You get the odd one who comes early and we are lucky to have found one in Krul.

 

Wasn't it just the Sun that reported this..with NO quotes whatsoever?

I think it's bullshit.

 

have any of you actually seen forster play??

he is a nervous wreck in every game i've seen him and he cant catch a ball!! total flapper!!

and while i like harper as a fella, he is not the best keeper by any stretch!! no agility and gets beat under his body all the time!!

dunno about green though!!

 

Bull**** as far as I'm concerned. Green is useless, and Harper and Krul are both a lot better. Forster is also rubbish (as proved by Leeds friendly) so needs to be sold.

 

Forster is very young in goalkeeping terms. We need to show more patience. As I say keepers rarely find their feet until mid to late twenties. He's no Casilias or anything like that but he's a decent young keeper. I watched him a fair bit for Celtic and caught bits of his loan at Norwich on the football league show. He was just a typical young keeper in that he could be nervy at times, and would have outstanding games, but with a few shockers thrown in. He just needs nurtured correctly and brought along slowly. Can't agree with you about Harper but each to their own.

 

I have to confess to not being happy with our goalkeeping situation - Harper is still decent but fading, Krul looks far too easily beaten and doesn't seem to have enough agility and Forster looks a long way from being ready for the Premier League. I would also say that Rob Green is certainly not the answer either!.

I think Harper should remain #1 with Krul hopefully improving his shot-stopping. Forster back out on loan and thanks but no thanks to Rob Green.

 

jesus man forster is a bairn in goalkeeping terms. we need to have a bit more patience with him. hes very promising for a keeper of his age. there aren't many around playing at the level he is at the age he is now. loan him to west ham for all i care but to get shot permanently at this stage of his career seems daft to me.

 

He's not as good as Harper so he can **** off.

 

Green would be a shocking buy. He plays the occaisonal blinder but Krul could learn more about goalkeeping from you or me than Rob Green.

 

I'm gonna stick my neck out and say I rate Green, and I wouldn't mind either way wether this deal happened or not.

 

I personally don't think he's a BAD keeper, i just fail to see where h's an improvement on what is a pretty strong department for us? i rate harper higher than i rate green.

and Krul is going to be pushing for the 1st team this year and might well oust harper at some point. bringing in green would only set him back and would waste some of our minimal transfer resources. he'd want barnetta style wages as well since hes an ex england international...