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Owls v Leeds

Discussion in 'Leeds United' started by LeedsLover, Aug 21, 2016.

  1. Eireleeds1

    Eireleeds1 Well-Known Member

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    Green made one cracking save on Saturday when Wednesday were still in the game. All he had to do but did it well
     
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  2. LeedsLover

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    Criticise all Leeds academy players:......did not
    Sing the praise of foreign players......we have foreign players playing for us........you lost me on that one.
    Criticise Rob Green......did not.
    Needlessly involve Neil Redfearn:.....I have a sense of humour.
    Criticise Chris Wood for scoring.........didn't criticise Wood, you didn't read it properly.

    Nice job <ok>[/QUOTE].......cheers Josh, I thought I did an ok job too.....:emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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  3. LeedsLover

    LeedsLover Well-Known Member

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    fish 1106003_f520 1C.jpg

    Fishing is good in this part of the pond.
     
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  4. Josh-LUFC

    Josh-LUFC Well-Known Member

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    Every goal conceded cannot be blamed on a keeper. All players can always do better but there is no need to over analyse one specific position. Some of the goals conceded this season so far have not been Green's fault. People getting on his back is not going to help confidence and one of my pet hates is when people criticise not based on what they are seeing but rather based on opinions they have already made on players. Personally I think you make an opinion on players the first time you see them and from there on in it doesn't even matter what they do on the pitch, you'll stick with it.

    Not an attack, just my observation
     
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  5. Josh-LUFC

    Josh-LUFC Well-Known Member

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    .......cheers Josh, I thought I did an ok job too.....:emoticon-0148-yes:[/QUOTE]

    You criticised Viera, Mowatt and suggested we are better off without Cook (which I don't agree with in the slightest and isn't really relevant to this match report)

    You praised Antonsson, Sacko, Hernandez and Silvestri. Two of which didn't play

    You blatantly criticised Green. You said "Green is very suspect in all areas of a keeper's role". And you also avoided giving him any credit for the clean sheet. That's criticising imo.

    It was needless to involve Redfearn. Maybe it is sense of humour but i didn't find it that funny, hence didn't see it as a joke. Maybe others did.

    You did criticise Wood. You said "the ball accidentally caught wood's flailing leg and went into the right corner of the goal". It was actually a very good run and finish. You said more but I'm o my phone and can't be bothered to quote everything you said
     
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  6. w.c.dukenfieldesq

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    Very good added to my favourites
     
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  7. LeedsLover

    LeedsLover Well-Known Member

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    Actually that's not the case, if a player improves I will change my opinion of him, if, and untill that happens my opinion stays same. I'm not going to bow to you or any peer pressure because I have a differing opinion, and I certainly know you won't. You yourself have an opinion and you stick with it............so where do we differ, where do we differ Josh, other than having different opinions on players.

    Others on here have differing opinions to me and you, where do we differ, only difference is, they're different opinions.

    If you read lots of articles etc like I do, you'll find plenty of Leeds fans that have a different opinion to both you and I, you'll also find plenty of fans will have the same or similar opinions as both of us respectfully, same applies to others who post on here.

    I don't berate you or your opinions, but you seem to have a bee in your bonnet about my opinions, it's like you're looking for faults, yet we're both entitled to voice our views and opinions as we perceive them, without malice, just like everyone else.

    I've mentioned a few times on here, I look at players from different angles, probably more so than most, I look for potential, potential that can bring benefit to the team, others will see things differently about players as they see it, it's just different opinions............that's all it is, different opinions.

    People will berate those with a different opinion because they choose too, they make the choice for a reason, top of list is having an agenda against that person.

    Do you have a best friend Josh, do you break that friendship because he has a different opinion on some things, they're just different opinions Josh, different opinions, nothing more and nothing less.........:emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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  8. ristac

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    THIS... You don't attend matches, you're match reports are based on media outlets or radio commentary, you base you're opinions from what others see or what you read, not with your own eyes unless you catch an odd game on TV
     
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  9. Chippy / Glory

    Chippy / Glory Senior Member

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    You cant have any valid opinions on the performance on Saturday.
    You were not there and like me you have only seen a few minutes of highlights and listened to a radio commentary........
    Is it really so difficult to understand why others have issues with your third party made up match reports.
    Its not fishing its weird.
     
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  10. TC (Lovely Geezer)

    TC (Lovely Geezer) Well-Known Member

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    I haven't seen your highlights but can offer a match report too - not as long winded and tripe infected.

    Leeds got lucky!
     
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  11. LeedsLover

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    You criticised Viera, Mowatt and suggested we are better off without Cook (which I don't agree with in the slightest and isn't really relevant to this match report)

    You praised Antonsson, Sacko, Hernandez and Silvestri. Two of which didn't play

    You blatantly criticised Green. You said "Green is very suspect in all areas of a keeper's role". And you also avoided giving him any credit for the clean sheet. That's criticising imo.

    It was needless to involve Redfearn. Maybe it is sense of humour but i didn't find it that funny, hence didn't see it as a joke. Maybe others did.

    You did criticise Wood. You said "the ball accidentally caught wood's flailing leg and went into the right corner of the goal". It was actually a very good run and finish. You said more but I'm o my phone and can't be bothered to quote everything you said[/QUOTE]

    I didn't criticise Viera or Mowatt, some will agree that Viera is still learning his trade.........that's not a criticism, it's an observation, didn't criticise Mowatt, he's off the boil and still trying to find his form, others have said similar on here...........did they criticise too? cos I can only see you having a go at my comments.

    Yes I praised Antonsson and Sacko, so did the majority, if not all of Leeds fans; I don't understand what you're trying to say, I also praised the team as a whole.

    Many fans said, including on here, they/we could see Hernandez was a different class to what we were used too. I mentioned that when Hernandez gets use to our players, or our players get use to Hernandez then we'll have more strength and stability in midfield, I can't see anything wrong with saying that.

    I've made no bones about preferring Silvestri to Green, everyone knows that, same with saying I don't rate Green. You have players you rate and don't rate....don't you?...how many of Cellino's signings didn't you rate?........did I berate you for it?

    Did you rate Adryan?, Did you rate Becchio, Bianchi, Bellusci, Antenucci, Wootton, or any other Cellino signings?

    What I said about the clean sheet was (I would say performances from our midfield and defence was the reason Green kept a clean sheet,) I put a few questions in there as well allowing others to voice their opinions.

    Wasn't needless involving Redders, it was a joke, and a question because Redders had a habit of trying to claim credit for the up and coming youth players, even after he left. You're not the only one who had a go at me over it; If you don't like my sense of humour feel free not to laugh, I'm not going to berate you for it.

    Would you prefer I stop cracking jokes because you don't find'em funny, is that what you're saying?

    In regards to Wood and his goal, that piece I put in purposely, of all those that read the post, and liked it, they never mentioned it or picked up on it, except 2 of you, maybe some of the others agreed with it, I don't know. To be perfectly honest Josh, I didn't think you'd be one of'em.

    Those I thought would dip their pinky in obviously refrained from commenting so far. I even had a catch of the day picture waiting, even the fish was chomping at the bit to get on this forum, it was not to be, but someone got the picture.

    However, while all goals count, it was obvious Wood didn't trip over his own feet.

    I love a good detailed debate and conversation about football or any subject, and you're one of a few who add reasoned detail, but if you're going to continue to add malice cos I have a different opinion, then I'm not interested.

    How about we keep future debates on a friendly basis, I have no agenda against you........:emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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  12. LeedsLover

    LeedsLover Well-Known Member

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    But not all of'em it seems.
     
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  13. Chippy / Glory

    Chippy / Glory Senior Member

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    Did I say all?
    I would suggest its a significant majority though!
     
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  14. Josh-LUFC

    Josh-LUFC Well-Known Member

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    I had no agenda, it's just very repetitive.

    Also, I have criticised Green for mistakes he has made this season. If I say he is at fault, whether true or not, that is a criticism. I think that criticising him when you haven't seen the game and he had a clean sheet is harsh and that is mostly what got on my nerves a bit. Everyone knows you prefer silvestri.
     
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  15. Leedsoflondon

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    Psycobabble as usual when you can't answer because you've been proved wrong <doh>
     
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  16. Whitejock

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    LL, Josh is spot on with his observations.

    The thing that galls me is that you claim to be a Psychologist, yet fail to see that Josh is rightfully identifying a pattern.:emoticon-0181-fubar

    Your defence is to specify comments made on individuals, yet you fail to realise that you rigidly have those you criticise & those you praise:

    * If anyone on your 'criticise list' is worthy of praise, you do not comment at all. <doh>

    * If anyone on your 'praise list' is worthy of getting pelters, again, you do not comment at all. <doh>

    Perhaps it's unconscious behaviours and you don't know what you're doing. Ever thought of being a referee? (did you see what I did there :grin:).
     
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  17. Chippy / Glory

    Chippy / Glory Senior Member

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    Only needed the words plastic, weird, delusional and hypocrite in there and you had it 100% nailed.
     
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    got the popcorn and beer ready [emoji482]


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    Chippy / Glory Senior Member

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    There was a moment earlier when the rest of us were getting ready for you to get back here and tear ristac a new one. <laugh><laugh><laugh><laugh>

    #peacemaker
     
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  20. BillysStatue

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    looks like that's been covered


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