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The EU debate - Part II

Discussion in 'The Premier League' started by PINKIE, Jul 19, 2016.

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  1. DMD

    DMD Eh? Forum Moderator

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    It's as funny as **** watching their desperate attempts at trying to spin things. All because you've highlighted the rather obvious limitations some of them have. :emoticon-0102-bigsm:emoticon-0102-bigsm
     
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  2. Tiddler

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    Awwwwww diddums. Did I upset you by challenging your friend Walter Mitty?

    Your being so thick would be funny if I didn't feel sorry for you.


    Oh **** it. I'll laugh at you for being a ****** anyway :emoticon-0136-giggl
     
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  3. The Ginger Marks

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    Don't sit on the fence tobes!
     
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  4. NSIS

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    It might be helpful if you read the entire article! Gvt spending fell year on year between April and July. As the referendum was held on 23rd June, most of that was accounted for beforehand.

    Also, July's figure was boosted by corporate tax receipts. June being the end of financial year for many companies.

    In other news, the pound fell sharply again on rumours that May will attempt to invoke article 50 early next year. Which many think is a stupid idea as there are GE's in both Germany and France later in 2017. There's hardly any point in entering into negotiations with a Gvt that may not even be in power a few months subsequently.

    If she actually succeeds In invoking article 50, the currency will probably disappear up its own fundament!
     
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  5. petersaxton

    petersaxton Well-Known Member

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    The UK will be negotiating with the EU not individual countries. There's always going to be elections in individual countries of the EU.
     
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  6. NSIS

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    The two countries with by far the biggest sway in anything the EU does are France and Germany.

    It's far more advantageous to wait for the result of those elections and discover who you're going to be dealing with. Although I've no doubt that the rabid Tory far right will try to railroad her into an earlier move.
     
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  7. petersaxton

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    Doesn't seem much of a union any other country would want to be part of. It's best we get out of something you seem to agree is so anti-democratic.
     
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  8. NSIS

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    That's just a fact. In the same way that England dominates the so called United Kingdom!...

    Maybe Scotland and Wales should get out....??
     
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  9. petersaxton

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    England doesn't dominate the UK. There's simply more MPs representing English constituencies but there's not an English grouping in Parliament. You seem to be saying that there's a German and French grouping in the EU.
    Scotland had a referendum and chose to remain in the UK. Polls in Wales show very little interest in leaving the UK. You don't seem to know what's going on.
    The UK had a referendum and chose to leave the EU.
     
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  10. HRH Custard VC

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    Fixed

    France will choose NF, as they now hate the EU, German have big problems and the Far right will make Merkels life very difficult.
     
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  11. NSIS

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    It's absolute nonsense to claim that England does not dominate the United Kingdom - of course it does! It dominates in every single way.

    Try telling the Scots who voted by a wide margin to remain in the EU, and have been denied by the vote in England, that England doesn't dominate them!

    It's you, you silly old fool, who blindly sees only what he wants to see!
     
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  12. HRH Custard VC

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    Wales voted out along with England, short memory?
     
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  13. NSIS

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    We will see! But it's clearly not to the UK's advantage to make a move until we see the results. Then they will know who they will be negotiating with.
     
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  14. HRH Custard VC

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    The scotties voted IN by 600k votes not a huge margin in the grand scheme of things.
     
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  15. NSIS

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    And Scotland voted by a wide margin to remain. They've been denied, but England doesn't dominate!?!!
     
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  16. petersaxton

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    You don't seem to realise the level of devolution in the UK.
    Do you always resort to insults when you get confused by reality?
     
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  17. HRH Custard VC

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    The first 12 months will be just talks, then after elections it will get serious. May needs to get A50 going or its own MPs will turn on her
     
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  18. petersaxton

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    They will be negotiating with the EU.
     
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  19. NSIS

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    They voted 62-38% to remain. A far, far wider margin than the English leave result!!
     
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  20. HRH Custard VC

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    Of cause England dominate, and so it should, we have 50M more people than the Scotties and a much bigger economy.
     
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