That might have been the case in the game you went to, but there's plenty of trouble at German football matches, they were even considering banning alcohol in the stands as a result of it. The Champions League final between Bayern and Dortmund was the most trouble there's ever been at the new Wembley.
There's segregation at every game in Germany between the home and away sections however there's nothing stopping away fans buying tickets in the home end. Also it doesn't matter if a games 'sold out' because tickets are always on re-sale anyway. I agree with you that whilst its against ground regulations it needs to be tackled, I was more questioning if the current ground regulations are something that need to be reviewed, especially when other major leagues in Europe do it better, that goes for flares/air horns and the like as well not just segregation.
You can segregate fans and ban alcohol but it will still happen. In Germany they realise that not all fans are the same and that the overwhelming majority can sit like civilised human beings and watch a sports event without acting like animals. They know that complete segregation won't stop violence it will just punish normal fans, the same with banning alcohol. Thankfully they take a more pragmatic and reasoned approach over there, in England its just assumed everyone's out to create trouble and for two hours a week you turn into a high risk violent criminal.
It's really not that simple, nor as straightforward. We have a much different culture around drinking in the UK than in places like Germany, and in fact most of the rest of the world. What works overseas isn't likely to work in the UK.
Sorry but that's a cop-out, every other sport manages to allow people to drink without large scale disorder, its nothing to do with the 'drinking culture'. Plus have you ever been to a tailgate in the US? Your average Brit wouldn't last till lunchtime never mind make it to the game.
To be honest i wasn't too interested in Hull city in my early teens until i won a pair of tickets in the hull daily mail to go watch them play Blackpool at home in the season we first got promoted to the prem. We drew 2-2 and the excitement of that game just gripped me and i have supported them ever since. I am now 24 and have a membership with my fiance and daughter and am glad that i entered that competition. I may have been a plastic but would consider myself a supporter now.
I hadn't got you down as an argumentative pedant (like Sydneytiger and Peter Sexton to name but two!). Away fans are, of course ... Away fans, and not included in this debate.
Nothing wrong with that at all, it doesn't matter how or when you get to your first game, all that matters is that you've supported them ever since.
Different types of people go to different events. Trouble in some other sports is not as widely reported. Your final paragraph pretty much validates and agrees with my point...
Didn't make a comment on this but I don't really agree with the term 'plastic' myself, a football fans a football fan to me regardless of anything, if some starstruck kids want to see Zlatan at the KCOM and aren't City fans that's fine by me, maybe they will watch Snodders bang in a freekick from 35 yards out and be dumbstruck City fans from then onwards.
So you're essentially saying football attracts a unique and dangerous demographic that can't be trusted to behave like the rest of society. Do you work for Humberside Police by any chance?
I think it's only the rednecks drink USA beer, anybody with a brain drinks imported stuff and the home brews
I agree. I think football is dull as **** unless I want a team to win or a team to lose and I would never watch a live match that didnt meet this basic criteria.
Nonsense Some fantastic IPAs from the States, and they are anything but piss. Try a full session on Flying Dog Raging Bitch and find out
