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'They're not big enough to sign a Paul Pogba'

Discussion in 'The Premier League' started by HRH Custard VC, Aug 10, 2016.

  1. cini65

    cini65 Well-Known Member

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    So the only downside to spending loads is opposition fan mocking then. Confirmed.
     
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    Treble Keyser Söze

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    We've heard this all before mate. And yet United are still here, earning **** loads and willing to spend it to try and build further success. Nothing you've said is anything more than hope on your part. At the end of the day, if they weren't a well run organisation, they wouldn't be able to afford Pogba in the first place nor would they be winning trophies, which the last time I looked they were doing both of.
     
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  3. Archers Road

    Archers Road Urban Spaceman

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    So you're happy with finishing 5th then? And 3 seasons with no CL doesn't bother you?
     
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  4. Treble

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    No not happy, but we have no God given right to win anything either. I'm just a fan and all I care about is if the player is going to improve our chances of success. I couldn't give a **** about the fee as long as the club can afford it, which it can. You could ask Arsenal fans a similar question. As a fan, I'd rather United were using the money to buy players than sit on it like Arsenal and offer their fans little or no ambition.

    Picking up on your earlier point about it being a well organised club, I'll just post this link from another thread. Like I said we've had this said before about United over the years but it should be put in context.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football..._the_day&ns_source=facebook&ns_linkname=sport
     
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  5. cini65

    cini65 Well-Known Member

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    What's that got to do with whether Pogba is 'worth' an amount? You've changed your argument now. Should United NOT be spending their money or something to try and get better??

    Why would three seasons without CL bother a fan if it didn't affect their team's chances of signing world class players? All the CL does is give you more money. And United have proven they don't need more money as they already have a f*** ton of it. So being in the CL to a team like United means little unless they're going to win it. United not being in the CL for a decade would be the same as Arsenal being in the CL every year for a decade... Neither team would win it. But United would probably spend more money with the aim to improve to get to a point where they might qualify and challenge for it. Arsenal would do the bare minimum to qualify for the CL, get the participation money for getting KO'd in the last 16 and fund their squad just enough to be able to repeat ad infinitum year after year and then release their accounts publicly to announce how well run a club they are while looking down their noses at other clubs spending money they earn legitimately.
     
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    What you'll find is that when the season starts and Arsenal haven't signed the right players, everyone will say "season's only started wait to end". Then when it gets to the end of the season they'll say "we should be grateful he's qualified for the CL again". Then in the summer the whole thing starts again. No disrespect mate but as a rival, I hope you keep doing the same. And I'm not being funny, I bet every one of your rival club fans ( be it Chelsea, United, City, Liverpool) all feel the same. You're written off the title race more than United ffs! And that's after finishing above us for 3 seasons in a row. Why? Because despite us finishing lower, our spending (and our new manager) coupled with your perenial stagnant underachievement, means ppl feel you'll finish top 4 while at least 3 other teams will have more chance of winning the title. AND YET there are people who still can't see how damning that is.
     
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  7. HRH Custard VC

    HRH Custard VC National Car Park Attendant

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    You will find UTD were in the CL last season
     
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  8. Bodinki

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    If you want to know what desperation looks like, see the quote above <laugh> ^^^^^
     
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    Archers Road Urban Spaceman

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    Curious rant, that. Mind you, Arsenal fans are an odd bunch & often seem to be angry about something.
     
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    What's curious about it? There's only really one thing that you'll find frustrates arsenal fans and it's been the same thing for years.

    Anyway, back to Pogba... The most bizarre thing is rival fans having a pop at United for being mugged off for overpaying when there is, literally, no downside to United for spending that much regardless of how well Pogba turns out. It's pure jealousy.
     
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  11. Bodinki

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    Not sure why this has riled people, other than jealousy

    Is he overpriced? Yes
    Do Man Utd care? No
    Can they afford it? Yes
    Will they make most if not all of the money back inside of a season? Yes

    If anything I like it because it will piss off Real Madrid two fold

    1) Because they wanted Pogba
    2) Because they no longer have the honour of having "the most expensive player in the world" for what that is worth, obviously a lot, to them.
     
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    Also love this deal. Statement of intent that the PL has pulling power and lots of money. Top class managers are slowly filling our clubs up. More and more class players are coming over to lots of our clubs and not just the big ones, and our big teams are spending BIG.

    Better than a few years ago when we only 2-3 world class players in the entire league.
     
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  13. NSIS

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    But what is all this doing to our own home grown talent? Is this really good for English football in the longer term?

    Are the young English players who some teams are bringing through going to learn from these 'superstars'? Or are they merely being held back in their development as the ever increasing pressure for immediate success grows?

    At Spurs, ok partly from financial necessity due to the new stadium, we are at least trying to develop and bring through the most capable young talent. Some will make it, like Kane, others will not.

    Will other clubs finally be forced into similar action as the prices of these so called star players ever increases? Ok, I know one or two are, but many others do not even seem to attempt to.

    It's a genuine question, and in my view, dilemma.
     
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    cini65 Well-Known Member

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    Dilemma for who? Not for me as I care little for the national team or whether players playing for the club team I support are English or not. I follow football primarily because it's entertaining. Therefore the primary factor for football players playing in the league I follow should be that they are entertaining players, not English players. If English players are good enough they'll play. If not they can train harder or get a proper job like the rest of us.
     
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  15. Bodinki

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    Ask someone who gives a ****.
    I just want to see good Premier League football, couldn't give a **** what nationality is playing.
    England and the FA can kiss my sphincter
     
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  16. NSIS

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    Well, I do care about the national team! Here in Spain, it's hugely important and a source of national pride. Which is as it should be, and as it was in England too.

    Pity the English don't currently feel the same pride as the Spanish. But, there again, if we actually took some pride of our own in our national team. Gave them some priority for once, maybe that pride would come back!?
     
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  17. NSIS

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    Same reply I've just given to cine65

    Sad, very sad, that attitude....
     
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  18. cini65

    cini65 Well-Known Member

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    Why should we feel pride in a team just because of nationality? If the English players are good enough they'll play regardless and earn their millions. If not they can train harder to get better or get a real job like the rest of us.
     
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    But why? Just because of some unexplained notion of national pride? Why do we automatically have to be proud of a team?
     
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  20. NSIS

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    Oh, the cynicism!


    If you don't know, it's pointless me trying to explain it!
     
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