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Abraham Signs - No 9!!

Discussion in 'Bristol City' started by Reliant Robin TC, Aug 5, 2016.

  1. johngalleyfan2

    johngalleyfan2 Well-Known Member

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    the ability to look beyond the immediate horizon when shrouded in euphoria clouds the realism of the moment ...Kodija is / was the best we had until around 1630 Saturday .he is no way the finished article, but it is unfair to judge on one game if he has learned from last season.
    yes a lot of his goals could go down as "meaningless" last season . but isn't that true of all strikers. you could say the goals that "mean anything " is the goals that put you in the lead by 1 goal, or is the goal that doesn't lose you 3 points but gains 1.
    most on here do subliminally reckon on 10 games to for things to settle ..maybe 5 or 6 for a player!?
    sad really to see team/players being picked apart after 90 mins .......
     
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  2. Red Robin

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    I could see in 10 minutes the difference between Abraham and Kojack no comparison i'm afraid.
    20 million plus player in our first team hope he is well insured.
     
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  3. BrightredRickster

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    We are lucky to have Kodjia
    And the best thing about him is the Lansdown signature on his contract.

    If we sell it will net us 7 million profit, and if we keep him it will bring us 15-20 Championship goals a season
    Whats not to like ?

    Tammy belongs to Chelsea, and if he makes a good job of this season he may even score goals against us for the blues next season.
    We are lucky to have them both.

    Some people just want to moan even when everything is shaping up a treat
     
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  4. Redprintt

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    'I could see in 10 minutes the difference' - and you may well be right.

    As most fans I like to think I judge players pretty well, however I was wrong after judging Basso on his first game.
    I was also wrong about Matt Elliott after 1 game.
    It's not an exact science, and found out to much ridicule, it's best to wait till they've played a number of games.

    As Rickster put it, we're lucky to have them both.
     
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  5. gdknac

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    Not naive enough to judge anyone after one game. I have said the same sort of comments about his play before though, he is not prolific enough for the Premier League. Certainly is a good player, but frankly I would be surprised if he gets 20 goals again this season.As I said, would be great to be proved wrong.
     
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  6. wings-of-a-crow

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    good old red robin he"s a coach- put kodjia on the wing,
    a talent spotter - i could see in ten minutes blah blah blah
    a pchycologist - i could see his head was down .... ...
    is there no beginning to the mans talents?
     
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  7. oneforthebristolcity

    oneforthebristolcity Well-Known Member

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    We have the likes of "prem" knocking Kodjia one game into the new season, but then he thinks that Scottish football is at a decent level........Say no more!!
    I think the pair need to be given time to get used to each others style of play and timing......maybe, just maybe they will form a great strikers partnership!
     
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  8. Premiershiporbust IV

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    **** me, give it a rest with the Scottish football, how many years ago is it now. Its like having an argument with your missis when she drags up something from 25 years ago to throw at you, getting pretty boring now.

    If you give it some thought, there are probably 4 main types of player as under:

    1). Those with natural ability and flair, who are able to do the right things skilfully and seem effortless in the process. These are the ones who go for £10's of millions
    2). Those have decent ability but who absolutely work their socks off with a burning desire to learn and improve, to go from good to great and to reach the top.
    3). Those who limited ability but make up for it with huge work rate and who make themselves an invaluable part of the team
    4). Those who could potentially reach the heights but who don't have the dedication, interest or brainpower to go the extra mile to get there

    In my opinion, JK has the ability to play at a much higher level and I have had a punt on him to be top scorer again and I really don't get why my observations have been taken so negatively by some.

    I am disappointed that he doesn't seem to have worked on sorting out his offside problem. Its not bloody rocket science and a bit more care could result in many more goals for us, which I would be very happy with. Likewise, we all know that strikers are a greedy lot but it should not be to the exclusion of all else. A good striker would look up and see whether a team mate is better placed, this is part of improving your game and that's what it's all about...

    We will see how it goes...
     
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  9. oneforthebristolcity

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    Ha ha, the comment regarding Scottish Football hit a nerve as I expected!!
    Lots of blah blah blah but quite often not always the case but can't be arsed to go into it all now as I'm too tired..
    But an example which comes to me as my eyes begin to close.. Didier Drogba,,,,,,his first season at Chelsea was bloody dreadful and most never understood what all the fuss was about when he came to England..........After that he was a totally different player.....Sometimes adapting is key. JK's has had one season and in my book has done bloody well for us, especially in a struggling side..
    Like you said, lets see how it goes, I'm sure if it's not working, LJ will know what to do!
     
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  10. BrightredRickster

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    Could it be do you think that he over-psyches himself so that the red mist descends sometimes, and he snatches at the chances he gets. That tends to suggest a lack of experience, and it will gradually disappear, hopefully to be replaced by deadly cold finishing. Certainly Abraham will be a good influence on him as a finisher, and they can maybe grow together, as did Cheesley and Ritchie back in the day.
     
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  11. banksyisourhero

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    He wins on being the most impatient Fan in Bristol too...
     
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  12. RedorDead

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    Plus an informative Brother
     
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  13. johngalleyfan2

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    I think the above quote is a bit premature ( maybe after 4 or 5 games !) ..90 mins of something like 4950 mins leaves a lot of time to settle and show any improvement
     
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    So just so I know Kodjia who scored 20 goals last season, and went without a goal last Saturday, he is now the blame boy? <doh>
     
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  15. Premiershiporbust IV

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    Nothing to do with whether he scored or not plus, where is the blame...?

    I said I was disappointed he hasn't sorted his offside problem out and doesn't look up to see where his team mates are. This would represent progression...
     
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  16. wizered

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    The man scored 20 goals last season, the owner values him at a minimal of £10m our most valuable owned player, Premier and Championship clubs have expressed interest in him (Press reports) he has had 90 mins of league football only and the guy is being criticised, what about Tomlin, Bryan,Pack, Flint, O'Neil and co, how are they going to progress, for god sake give the guy some credit.
     
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  17. RedorDead

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    Just out of interest, from where I was I couldn't see but was Abraham onside?


    Last season
    Jamie Vardy 26 times
    Sergio Aguero 27 times
    Harry Kane 30 times
    Diego Costa 33 times
    Jermain Defoe offside 46 times

    Bet you would **** yourself silly to get any of those players
     
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  18. Premiershiporbust IV

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    Kodjia matches Defoe's entire season's tally in about a dozen games...

    Clearly I have committed some kind of heinous crime by daring to comment about JK's inability to stay onside. Fine I won't mention it anymore, let's see how long it is before it is sorted...
     
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  19. oneforthebristolcity

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    Surly it's more important how many he scores or how many he assists than it is, how many times he gets caught offside? He's been with us for one season, I'm sure he will learn!!
     
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  20. banksyisourhero

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    Exactly.. One thing is linked to the other. he is playing absolutely on the defenders shoulders, he's trying to grab every millisecond of advantage he can.. just like any athlete on a starting podium..

    The people who have been impatiently crying like little children on here for a 20 goal a season striker get their wish and its still not good enough..

    I'll say it again.. if he was the perfect striker he wouldn't be at our club.. its very simple!!
     
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