im all for debate but it's become patently obvious we've a section of support that can or won't see anything only negativity. Fine, but like I've posted elsewhere, I want to enjoy the first few games of our season. Maybe it'll go like other years, I hope not, but I will not accept the bullshit of deriding players before they've kicked a competitive ball for us or hailing Lucy Ward as a some sort of savior. No one here even knew who she was a year ago. Support the club ffs for at least first month and put your damned hatred of Cellino to one side
Oops! you've done it now. Stepped in at a convenient point for everyone to pull together to launch into an available Millwall supporter. Tin hat on! Heard you guys had outsourced your support to India anyway ....
As much as I hate Cellino I do agree. It's pointless saying the same thing over and over It's a new dawn, we've had a few of em but may as well support the new crop at least till they give us a reason not to
I'm optimistic for a 'better' season! I even said I will give it till Christmas, this new bunch will take time to settle properly, I just hope Cellino doesn't demand instant success. First time in a LONG time I have looked at the squad and feel it is a stronger one than last.
Come on Eire lad!!! Its all about opinion. Some think one ways, others think the other. It would be a very dull board if we all agreed....
These apologists that never go with their let's wait and see is the same sort of bullshit as the corbinistas not accepting that you have to have stability to compete. One question to them. If not now after all that he has done, when?
I supported the club last weekend and will be again next and the following Tuesday, what are you doing to support the club?
Why do you keep going down that road Chippy, everyone who follows Leeds United is a supporter; doesn't matter whether they're in Leeds, Yorkshire, London or overseas, they're all supporters.
ffs Glory the seasons not started yet,it is getting boring,save it for Tuesday when you have your Leeds haters meeting with your Manc friends in the box.
Ok... The coffee has kicked in now! It is perfectly possible to support the club and despise the owner we have all done it before. Even that time it was a movement that grew from a few that voiced their concerns and never let go. Do I want the team to succeed? You bet your sweet life I do. Do I think there is any chance of it happening with Cellino here? Not a hope in hell! Where I differ from most of you is that because he is incompetent as well as unfit he is more damaging to the club that Bates/ Krasner and GFH were. Will you be convinced if he sacks Monk before November?
Are you a “true” football fan? Ahmed Bilal 2 May, 2007 Fans, Help Football Are you a ‘true’ fan? In the year or so of managing Soccerlens, I’ve heard this quite often: you’re not a true fan, if you were you’d … (add your own rationalisation here – these usually run along the lines of ‘know the history’, ‘trust the manager’, etc etc – anything to deny the other person’s point of view). So I ask again – are you a ‘true’ fan? How so? Recently the ‘act’ of being a ‘true’ fan was defined in a comment as one who sticks by a club through their highs and lows. I certainly have no arguments with that – fanaticism requires that you stick to your beliefs through thick and thin. However, this ‘true fan’ idea is whipped out every time people find something they disagree with. Such as: What, you like Freddy Shepherd? You CANT be a true fan. What, you support Manchester United? You southern bastards, you’d support Chelsea if they were winning this season. Chelsea don’t have any true fans. You don’t go to the stadium and watch the games, do you? You can’t be a true fan, no. It is as if being a ‘true fan’ means that you have to be a specific type of person – the ones who scream their hearts out at every game they can go and watch, the ones who have shed blood for the club while brawling with opposition fans in bars and alleys, the ones who are accepted by other fans as ‘true’ fans, ones who live in the same city. There are a lot of warped definitions, but the only one I can really agree with is this one: A true fan is one who supports his team through thick and thin, no matter where he is or what he does. So I guess the next question is – ‘new’ fans who starting watching a team after being exposed to them winning titles (United fans in the 90s, Arsenal fans over the turn of the century and Chelsea fans now), when will they be classified as ‘true’ fans? Is their a period of initiation, where you have to show that you suffer and yet still support the club? Or is it that because you support a big club that’s winning trophies, you can’t be a true fan, because being a true fan involves suffering? Let me know what you guys think. Update: Neil (comment #5) gives us this definition: “A real fan is someone who has known disappointment but not loved their club one degree less. A real fan must spend at least 30 minutes a day thinking about their club. A real fan should be able to explain to the satisfaction of other fans why they support the club they do and finally… Must be able to name the entire first team squad and be able to discuss the reletive strengths and weaknesses of their team.”
100% agreed, now find a definition of "supporter". It doesn't have to be football related but it's meaning will stem from the act of supporting. Been a fan is not the same thing. I realize the audience here and I have moved slightly from one camp to the other due to not wanting to prop up the Cellino trust fund more than I have to keep my attachment with the club but the opinions of a supporter are IMVHO more much more important than those of a mere fan. Personally cant see the point of following a club that you live so far away from that you can never see them play, its why we criticize the scum fans. Obviously those that travel huge distances because they live away are not included in this. They are just mad. I used to be a fan and a supporter now I think I am more just a supporter. Without supporters there would be no club.
That's your point of View,another could be did they cheer the team more in there 1 or 2 games than you did all season,I'm certain they didn't boo as much.Shako is my vote for top fan or supporter as he spent more of his disposable income on following the club than anyone else on here IMO.
