Could be quite controversial this but as fans what's your stance on him? He claims he was after Moyes on the last 5 Sunderland Managerial vacancies and finally got his man, well done Ellis, do you believe him though? I think for the last two maybe. In hindsight, no one could have pulled off the brilliant January additions but Sam, that saved our season, in my opinion though.. He came in on the back of a Niall Quinn induction when he was desperate, he would have heard the spiel, did he see profit and more profit? I think he did.. Does he have the club at heart, from me as a mere Sunderland fan, I don't think he does. He seems to only ever make things happen and turn up when the situation suits him or when the **** hits the fan. Apart from tipping a few waiters a grand and having a beer with the odd fan, his communication to the core of the supporters is quite shocking.. So here we are after another relegation scrape and in the pre-season throws with a wafer thin squad, a new manager and for me a trail of Ellis Short mishaps. It wasn't his fault the FA wanted Sam to manage England, it dragged on to nearly 4 weeks but was there an actual plan to if it happened? Alright having a manager lined up but communication surely would have set the wheels in motion to get things going 3 weeks ago, it was obvious what was going to happen so players could have been lined up for the new manager at his request, again this is my opinion. We are here now barely a fortnight away from the season beginning and again I'm thinking ffs Ellis, just sell up will you.. Ellis in my eyes = A J Raffles..
Spends just enough to keep us ticking over and will continue too. Bare minimum. No prizes for guessing why he wanted Moyes, shoe string manager at Everton. But the financial climate is very very different to when Moyes was in charge at Everton. You have to spend a lot just to stand still. The squad is much weaker than it was in January so we've gone backwards. No planning. He just missed the two optimum windows to invest heavily which would have helped us cope with Sam/FA saga. It's a mess, a rolling mess. Hope he sells up if I'm honest.
He's the owner of a football club in a lost little town on the NE coast that's done nowt for decades. He's kept us in the PL, brought in good managers and a series of international players. We're not attractive in any way but he's resisted the 'boom or bust' route that the likes of Leeds have taken. It would be easy to mortgage the club against future success but it would be a huge risk. If Sunderland were a good bet for success there'd be a queue of wealthy people looking for glory .......... there's no one.
I’m for him under the principle we could get some one in like those Buffoons at Hull or the loony at Leeds or the Thailand owners at Cardiff. I believe that once Moyes steadies the ship and we see mid-table mediocrity then he may dig deeper. I maybe purely fantasising but these are my feelings on him as an owner. Better the devil you know
I think he has lost interest tbh, and to some extent I cant blame him, the fault lies with the poor managers he has recruited, apart from Big Sam they have been dire.
That was like 15 years ago, the game has moved on so much from the Leeds demise and I certainly wouldn't insult the man to put him in the bracket of Peter Risdale. Here's one for you to think about, Gordon Strachan almost bankrupt Middlesbrough a few years ago with his big buys and get to the Prem quick fix, it back fired badly. So here they are now, newly promoted and putting together a proper team that should easily be safe next season. There gates are by the win token as to how many turn up, probably very little merchandise sells outside of the place but you see a aim and direction going on there. Can you honestly, hand on heart see that same aim at Sunderland?
You can't possibly know that. The clubs not for sale so why would any interest be publicly declared? The money in the game now it's hard to believe any PL club would struggle to find a buyer. Yes investing heavily is a risk, but so is what we're doing now. One relegation and we're up the crapper with our debt, In the meantime we're not doing a great job of paying it off. I'd rather pay it off as mid table club with larger revenues than as championship club with nowt coming in that's for sure. Invest in a spine and the windows become cheaper in the future as you only need the odd player instead of having to accommodate another 6 or 7 wages per season just to fill the squad out, without as much threat of relegation and financial ruin. He's made his millions cost cutting, but that's dangerous in football so I maintain there's massive risk in what we've been doing. We may have to mortgage the club starting next summer if we go down like we've been threatening to year on year. Once you're bankrupt it doesn't matter if you owed 1m or 1b, you're still bankrupt. So yeah it's a risk if we do and a risk if we don't if it fails either way we're ****ed. I think investing is the best chance of avoiding relegation personally. If so long as he doesn't I'll continue to want him to move on.
Every millionaire makes his money cost cutting Bri ....... Ashley charges his Sports Direct 'zero contract ' zombies if they fart in company time.
And we all have them.. Interesting reading RTG, the knives are out big style there, in a funny way of course..
And that is why he is being hauled here there and everywhere in Parliament, the mans a **** and a fat cockney ****, not much different from that Sir (haha) Charles Green tosser, ardent pocket-liners, don't give a **** about anything but their bank balance.. For me, Ellis is no different, keeps his gob shut, does things quietly and looks after no1.. I refer back to the Boro stuff I wrote, they were on their knees, struggled to take a loanee from Rotherham or somewhere ffs but being the chairman he is, Gibson, the No1 fan pulled them out of it. Ellis in my eyes, takes our eyeballs out every season, I just wish the ****a would put us up for sale..
He's pumped in millions. He's made mistakes, choosing managers, probably on advice of others. He's still dealing with a legacy of bad signings on bad contracts, and high wages which have hurt us the last couple of years. He's now brought in a manager who has a good record on transfers. Now Moyes can get to work on us for the next couple of years building on what Sam did. He said he wanted Moyes for the last 5 manager signings, so I'll keep faith with him until Moyes either succeeds, or ****s up.
The people who think he's in this for his own benefit need to ask themselves ........ what benefit? If they can explain why he doesn't just go I'd be all ears.
Agreed. To me, he showed some intent and continuing interest in the club, by being in France with the squad, when he may well have had other things he could have been doing.
