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Proposed Sport Village: What's Your Feeling?

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by smidgen, Aug 3, 2011.

  1. smidgen

    smidgen Active Member

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    The Hull Mail reports the statement by a dinosaur councillor - that he proposes keeping Hull Fair on the Walton Street site, even though it only runs for 8 days in October. The rest of the year the site stays an eyesore of a redundant space.

    http://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/story-13060410-detail/story.html

    There is always a rivalry between Hull and Nottingham as to who has the biggest fair. But the Goose Fair is pitched on the Forest Park which, after clean-up, reverts to being a park for the rest of the year.

    What do you think: should the fair be moved to a permanent site, somewhere else; and/or should the fair be pitched in an existing park (assuming any park is large enough)?
     
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  2. suchy

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    I would rather have a sports village that could be used year round rather than a empty waste land for the majority of the year plus there are many more suitable sites for the fair I believe and I would think some of the parks in hull would easily be big enough for hull fair.
     
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  3. Arnold_Lane_HCFC

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    I think it's a prerequisite that to be a councillor in Hull, you've got to be fairly clueless.

    They've been doing it since the 60's, unable to see the wood for the trees the majority of them. That's why so much of the city was left derelict after the war. So many of them sat on their hands whilst other towns got investment in and developed redundant spaces.

    Rivalry between Hull and Nottingham .... well Hullensians know that we're bigger than the Goose Fair, but rivalry ??? WTF.

    1 million people ..... really? What taking up hotel spaces, visting museums, eating out at restaurants? Or coming here for a night, feeding at Carvers, walking down a sticky Walton Street. And themoney disappearing in the pockets of the stall/ride owners.

    Keep it up Tez, you're doing a great job.<steam>
     
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  4. Boothferry2Wembley

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    The walton street site should be left alone, anyone who thinks hook a duck should be given up for a sports village is barking mad.
     
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  5. Arnold_Lane_HCFC

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    There is no rush, the council are not meeting the showmens guild until november, Why not ask one of the fortune teller ladies what the score is when the fair is here in october. If anyone knows the likely outcome it will be them surely?
     
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  7. originallambrettaman

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    The fair should be moved regardless of the sports village going ahead, it's a travelling fair, by it's very nature it can be staged anywhere and it would a great opportunity for us to also open our own showground(Lincoln style).
     
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  8. hullborn

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    this whole debate with the council is crackers. can they not see that the allams buying the KC is better for everyone ? the city will benefit greatly and will be somewhere for the youth to go instead of standing on street corners like monkeys.
     
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  9. smidgen

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    <ok> ^^^^^ This ^^^^^

    P.S. I can see why you're a biz-man OLM!
     
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    citycityhull Well-Known Member

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    A "showground" would be be great for the city. Harrogate has a huge showground that has events pretty much every week bringing in revenue to the city, Lincoln is the same. Ideal way to bring in funds to the city and future business investment in Hull.

    In regards to the sport village the Allams have forced the councils hand, surely they must sell now. If they dont the Allams will pack up City and move to Melton, AP and Hull FC will follow them, and so might Rovers. If a new sports village is built I would not be suprised to see a 15,000 seat multi purpose venue been built to accommodate both rugby clubs in Melton (could be used in rugby off season for either reserve/youth games or maybe apply for licence for a Hull rugby union team?). Any rugby fan who says it wouldnt happen needs a reality check, The New Craven Park doesnt have the atmosphere of the Old Craven Park, nor does the KC have the atmosphere of Boulevard. The 40,000 seater could be used for Derby days

    Would prefer to stay at KC (and Rovers at Craven Park), but who knows how the dumb council will go!
     
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  12. tigercity

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    I don't even live in Hull nor England but you have to look at the big picture and the fact is the Sports Village will offer much more to the community than the Fair. Hull won't lose the fair, it should just be given a new temporary home. Then Hull can enjoy the benefits of both. Walton Street car park is a pot-holled mess and the land is not being utilised. Councillors such as Garraghty are being small-minded.

    Besides if you open a sports village on the site, this will encourage by-products such as new restaurants, cafés, sports shops on Spring bank, which is exactly what it needs as I've heard some local businesses esp. pubs such as the Halfway House and George have closed. I don't profess to know why they've shut down but it must be revenue related.
     
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    "I know it will be detrimental to the city and it's residents but I for one am not having some johnny foreigner upstart coming in here and telling the council what to do"

    based on assumption but I think this attitude counts for a lot of the views shown in the article.

    I like how they say "veteran" instead of archaic.
     
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  14. citycityhull

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    Spot on Tigercity

    A sports village will develop an infrastructure to support its users, more importantly it will draw major events will will in turn draw more TV coverage, which in turn draws more sponsorship. All these factors increase a cities ability to draw in investment. Hull is a cheap city for a company to base its self. Has cheap land/rental, good transport links, low living costs (means employers can pay lower wages), ect. But we need to be on the map, we want the likes of Sky saying "we are he at the xxxxxxxx championship in the Hull Sports Village" rather then "we are at the Melton Sports Village near Hull"
     
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  15. DMD

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    So I can consider a comparison, where in the Country has a sports village similar to the one proposed?
     
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  16. anteatersrus

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    Whilst I appreciate that a nice new stadium has boosted attendances (I have friends who have had season tickets at the KC since day one but rarely set foot in Fer ark) I think us (and also Swansea) being at the top of the table is also due to meteoric rises up the leagues.
     
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  17. smidgen

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    You could well be right, but that momentum can still be continued, surely?
     
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  18. smidgen

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    Ever heard of the word 'pioneer'? Ever thought it's great to be the first? Imagination? <doh>

    And it doesn't cost the people of Hull anything, except for the Fair's relocation (see suggestions above). And it doesn't cost City fans anything either.
     
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  19. Nisbet

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    I had a look before, there are none really on the same scale with a football/sports ground on site, they are mainly swimming pool, large leisure centre and a few outdoor pitches with a few other bits varied between site.
     
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  20. anteatersrus

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    It would be great to think so
     
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