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  1. Commachio

    Commachio Rambo 2021

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    One leg of each. Still an improvement.
     
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  2. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    You should concentrate on Fellaini first instead of trying to do a double deal, I reckon Adnan could take a while.
     
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  3. crumble bungle

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    be like the rest of our transfers then.
     
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  4. Commachio

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  5. E.T. Fairfax

    E.T. Fairfax Well-Known Member

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    Quiet, its not up to you! :emoticon-0100-smile
     
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  6. Sunderlad

    Sunderlad Well-Known Member

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    Really, I think it possibly could/would. Fellaini a bit part player and Januzaj rarely getting a run out? Never know if you don't try. I mean the market has gone completely doolally but that's a realistic bid for two fringe players.
     
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  7. Tel (they/them)

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    Maybe, but I doubt it.
     
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  8. Brian Storm

    Brian Storm Well-Known Member

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    Well that was a pap interview. What's the point of asking the same questions over and over? Nobody asked about youth, nobody asked about his assessment of the squad. How facilities compare. Some pretty shoddy journalism. Were they expecting different answers or something? May as well looped the first 10 minutes of the interview over again.
     
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  9. Nads

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    It should.

    £17 Fell £13 Jan is about right, I'd expect United to add a sell on clause to Jan.
     
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  10. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    If you think so mate, that's your opinion.

    My opinion is that we've absolutely **** all to gain from sending him out for chicken feed, we'd sooner loan him than let him go for that sort of money. One good season with you or any other club and his value is over £30m no bother. It'd just be stupid business.

    To prize him away permanently, you'd have to come in with an inflated offer.
     
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  11. Nads

    Nads Well-Known Member

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    That's why I mention the sell on clause mate, I fully agree a full season and he'd be worth treble, but no guarantee it happens.

    X up front with 50% and future profit could work.
     
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  12. Brian Storm

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    Problem is though Tel, is the lad isn't getting any way enough game time and hasn't for seasons. He's not going to retain his value when it looks on the face of it to the rest of the world that you don't value him enough to develop him properly. Imo you're not going to get near to the price bandied about if that's indeed what you're holding out for.
     
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  13. Tel (they/them)

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    We'd just stick a Morata-style buy back clause in mate if he went on the cheap, looking at the Pogba farce that's unfolded there's no way we'd want a repeat of that.

    It looks like it's academic anyhow, Moyes has been quoted as saying:

    ""I'd love to have that level of player (Marouane Fellaini)," said the Scot. "Realistically, that's probably not going to happen."

    Whether he's talking about financial realism or competitive realism, only he knows.

    Adnan on loan, imo, is a good move for both clubs and the player.
     
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  14. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    You could be right, but we don't need to sell him mate, that's the bottom line here, we'll do what's best for the club and money like £13m won't make anybody in our boardroom twitch.
     
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  15. Brian Storm

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    One thing is for certain mate. You need to nail this next season's loan for him(he'll go on loan, nobody will pay that) in terms of the club you choose. It's a make or break season. You'll either have a very good commodity at the end of it, or a talented player you screwed up with. Jose needs to pick carefully. Doubt he will though, he's got insane form for dumping players on scrap heap. I think that's because money is never an issue to him in management. Glaring weakness in the man imo and something the traditions of Manchester United won't be impressed with. Fergie always made footballers, not give up on them.
     
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  16. Tel (they/them)

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    Mate we 'give up' on Pogba and Ravel Morrison by that logic. Sometimes players make their own decisions beyond the control of coaches and staff.

    The player has to apply himself, we can't do the work for him. If he's getting his head turned by fast cars, money, agents, whatever, then that's his own fault and I certainly won't be blaming a manager who's turned up after the kid has come off the tracks.

    If a kid who was almost completely written off by the club and it's fans, Jesse Lingard, can knuckle down and turn things around with hard work, then bearing in mind how much natural talent Adnan Januzaj has, he's got nobody but himself to blame if he's dumped, but right now, he's still a very bright prospect that we shouldn't be binning for **** money.
     
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  17. E.T. Fairfax

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  18. marcusblackcat

    marcusblackcat SAFC Sheriff Forum Moderator

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    And you expect more from the journos in this country? <laugh>

    Pity really - all the questions we want answers to but know for certain that we wont get they ask (stock answer every time "Yeah we've got bids in" etc...) but the questions we would ask just go completely unasked by the journalists!
     
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  19. Brian Storm

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    See you making all the noices which make me value him even less. So he won't aply himself? You'll not get close to your evaluation. And by the sounds, I don't want here either.
     
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  20. Brian Storm

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    Pointless pressing him when they've got all the information they're going to get.
     
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