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The EU debate - Part II

Discussion in 'The Premier League' started by PINKIE, Jul 19, 2016.

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  1. pieguts

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    Back in February they reported that they were closing 200 branches and shedding 9000 jobs as a result of the move towards online banking, so it appears that they are doing no more than they had already communicated.
    They may well be accelerating it as a result of Brexit, but the end result will be the same, which is what Custard said.
     
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    I have never once said that the decision to leave (wrong in my opinion), was going to be pain free. Pretty much, what I had read / researched is exactly what is happening and you are correctly reporting.
    The only thing I do differently from most of the remain posters on here, is try to take a balanced view of the good and bad. Being almost hysterical in some cases and resorting to insults / abuse on a football forum is not going to change anything <laugh>
     
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    One interesting thing that came out, was a lot of business folks from India sub-continent ethnic
    background had voted Leave. Where they want to do business with their spiritual homelands,
    apparently they deem the EU a hindrance and not a benefit.

    I guess the phrase some may now be using for those people is "little Indians" .

    And this is the thing about the UK.
    Through our past (good or bad) , we have far greater/wider legacy links with the world than
    the EU member states has ever had.
     
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    Far from retreating into isolation, the UK economy now looks more open than ever. It is gradually dawning on all but the most stubborn in the Remain camp that the world still wants to do business with an independent UK — and that, freed from having to tag along with EU trade deals, this country is now able to negotiate mutually favourable arrangements with fast-growing economies such as India and China. Meanwhile, the EU’s problems continue. Standard and Poor’s, one of the world’s top credit ratings agencies, warned recently that the EU is ‘unsustainable in its current form’.

    http://www.spectator.co.uk/2016/07/the-post-brexit-the-economy-is-more-open-than-ever/
     
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    At the risk of more Wumming, I'll point out that I only respond to insults. I don't start with them!

    The long term results are, of course, completely unknown. And, in a way, that's the point. A degree of certainty was exchanged for a 'Jam tomorrow' promise that had no substance and no real plan behind it.

    My view was, and is, that firstly it was a bad time in the recent economic cycle to leave. The economy runs a very real risk of sliding back into the recession that it had so recently dragged itself out of. And secondly, too many people voted to leave for all the wrong reasons.

    That's not to say everybody. Those who thought it through logically and still concluded leave was the right decision, I disagree with you, but respect that decision.
     
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    Agree - and I don't know about most punters, but when was the last time someone used their banks local branch, most do all their banking over the internet these days, I think I've gone into a branch once in the last two years and that was only to show id!
     
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    Can only tell you what they reported which was that they were accelerating and increasing the planned cuts because of Brexit. I suppose it's feasible that Kustard is more in the know than the Lloyd's CEO as he's demonstrated repeatedly that he is an authority on several subjects (mostly using the medium of the meme).
     
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  8. HRH Custard VC

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    Its well know LLoyds play to keep cutting jobs, along with many other banks, Brexit is just an excuse for them.

    Do keep up Uninteresting Stan
     
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    And my third and final point :)

    Anyone hear the story about the racism against two Polish guys that got beat up post brexit and all the remainers jumped on the social media band wagon blaming a new dawn of racial tensions after the vote - well if anyone had even taken anytime to research the story, the photographer at the time admitted he never witnessed the assault and despite repeatedly stating this, it got tarred as a racial incident, the outcome of which bared fruit of the attack being carried out by two Polish speaking men, one wearing his Polish national shirt. So the real racists were those constantly commenting on the original story without any basis of factual evidence what so ever, just to suit a cause.
     
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    As I said Kustard, they have said they are accelerating and increasing the planned cuts because of Brexit but I accept that you could be very in the know, just like UIR was <laugh>
     
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  11. Stan

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    That may be true but sadly the rise in hate crimes is a matter of fact not assumption as the racists feel empowered by the referendum result.

    Racism unleashed: True extent of the 'explosion of blatant hate' that followed Brexit result revealed

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-racism-unleashed-poland-racist-a7160786.html
     
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    Again I didn't disagree that Lloyds reported this a few days ago, however they also said this in February, with the same amount of branch closures and 9000 job losses. The point is, Brexit or no Brexit, the net result is the same.
     
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    If its bad it Brexits fault, just see uninteresting Stan for details.
     
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    Depends if you want to believe what is written in the Independent, how much of that story would you like me to pull apart?
     
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    Why use Brexit as an excuse if it was already in the public domain? They have accelerated and increased the planned cuts because of Brexit. There is no doubt that Brexit is hammering certain sectors, including the banks, which is why a company like Lloyds would have to accelerate and increase planned cuts that they weren't previously afraid to admit would be necessary.

    Rather than Brexit being used as an excuse, it's more like people using the excuse that Brexit is being used as an excuse as accepting the truth is too embarrassing!
     
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    <applause>

    and of course it is correct to use the word alleging but also I have also proven above the use of another word, fabrication.
     
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  18. Stan

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    Pull apart as much as you like. Deny that it's happening as much as you like. Perhaps the police are in on the conspiracy!
     
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    Brexit has produced some positives for Stan. We've agreed a monster deal that would never have happened pre Brexit. House builders don't like uncertainty!
     
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    "The bank confirmed that the decision to make further cuts was taken before the EU referendum on 23 June". as reported on the BBC website.

    So again nothing to do with Brexit.
    I bank with Lloyds and use my app than visit a branch, allong with many other people, so staff will not be needed, as technology replaces them.
     
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