What your failing to grasp bobby , is we aren't an " Average " club when it comes to transfers . Teams have payed those " Absorbent " amounts in comparison to what other have spent on players and have finished below us every season , sometimes so low they are in the Championship . Averaging 10 place with a plus net spending over 5 seasons bobby , we aren't an average club .
We have poor scouts and a poor chairman in any negotiations. He should not be let lose in finding players or there is only one way we are heading and it's not up.
You can only say that because you are judging with hindsight, unlike people who live in the real world we have to make decisions based on available facts. And I presume you are judging Huw on signing Gomis 2 years ago, remember he's the guy you were pleased who came to us back then. You say you are a realist and deal in facts, but here you are dealing in fantasy
When did i call you an average club? I might have insinuated you guys have been punching above your weight for the outlay of your club and i would stand by that. I called Tomkins an average player. Don't agree with this. Not when you are not a superstar like Allen then you don't hold any aces. Suarez tried to force a move and didn't get to go. Even other stars like Fabregas, Vieira, Ronaldo, Bale they all managed to get their moves but ON the clubs terms i.e. they were sold at valuations much higher than someone would normally pay for them.
When did I say you called us an average club , I said you are not grasping the fact that we aren't an average club " When it comes to transfers " bobby You sort of put a value you on Allen because of what other teams were paying for other players , I was merely stating that that maybe what other clubs do , without success sometimes , but is not what we do .
But you are going about this backwards, those players wanted to leave and break contracts, if a player wants to run down their contract there is nothing their existing club can do. For example if Allen wanted to sit on his contract to get a large signing on fee, he could just go through the motions with Liverpool knowing that in January he could talk to anyone, and then move on a Bosnan next year. Or he could force the hand of Liverpool and say his preferred choice is say Swansea and give them an option of lowering the valuation but getting most of what they want now, or go get hardly anything in January or nothing next year.
That's fair enough. You guys have been very good in the transfer market for what you have spent. However if you look at your team this season, i feel you may struggle although i do see worse teams than yourselves. This year and last years window have seen you not spending much at all and last year you in the relegation battle up until 3/4 of the way into the season. Saying that you still have some handy players in Ayew and Siggurdson and your team is generally fairly solid even if missing that striker Name me any player who has sit out their contract or refused to sign a new contract and gone to the club they wanted to go to. You have 2 types of players: Adebayor, Gomis, Berahino, Sterling,Robon Kanu these guys aren't targeting a club. They are targeting a big payday and any club who will pay them will do so are happy to sit out of signing a contract Then you have your Milners, Fabianskis. These guys didn't have offers in their last year of contracts and again didn't target clubs. Their contracts ran out and they moved because they wanted to play first team football. I don't know anyone who is half sensible would risk jeopardising their footballing career in their peak (you could argue Allen already has moving to Pool) on the premise that the team who you would like to go to MIGHT offer you a contract next year and then proceed to have a year long holiday. Anyway i think this argument is done. We will just have to agree to disagree on this
This has set a bad tempo for those Yanks who have taken over our club, I see Huw Jenkins time at the helm coming to an end, his days are numbered, he's making too many schoolboy errors in the transfer market, all based on taking a punt on cheap players, and his dithering approach is all too painfully obvious...............
Stoke put a higher bid in. He could never have come here because we didn't put another bid in. Our bid was rejected. Quite frankly, we've pissed Joe about this window. He sold his house in Cheshire and someone on here has already previously said he was looking for a new house in Swansea. He wanted to come here, and our morons in charge bottled it. We've spent nearly £5 million on Fer and now are linked with an £8 million move for a bang average player like Pritchard. Liverpool wanted £10 million for Joe before the Euro's started. We should have had a deal tied up with them before the tournament started. Could have kept it quiet until Wales were Ko'd not to distract Joe.
The point though he didn't want to come here otherwise he'd be putting himself out to come here. I don't buy that crap about being in Swansea and was looking for a house, and if he sold his house up north, then the process takes months not weeks, so he would have been selling long before we put an offer in. And we haven't pissed him around at all, nothing is done until signatures are on paper, as a football player he knows that. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/liverpool-fc-boss-jurgen-klopp-11665013 Liverpool now linked with Ayew.
We were never in for Joe Allen as I said a few pages back. it is a smoke screen and a sort of look what the new owners are trying to do, when we actually didn't do anything, The club will continue to drop hints that we are interested in Bony, where as I suspect we have no interest in him, another bit of potential good news which will never materialise, We will then sign bang average players and claim we couldn't get our first choices. I hope I am wrong. jager I like the idea of the loan deal that would make a bit of sense and maybe the only way we would consider him moving here.
It's an absolute disaster we never made enough effort to sign joe and gives me zero confidence that we will do all we can to sign bony....
I will be staggered if we do and the only way would be as Jager says it will be on loan, but I will take that at least this season will be sorted for a striker, but will still be flabbergasted if we are even considering it, why pay that for Bony when we can have Championship standard strikers for next to or nothing.
Bony & Ayew in swap deal? http://mancitysquare.com/2016/07/26/city-transfer-watch-ayew-for-bony-swap/
Nope ! They owe us over £8m for Bony right now, so I would say that if a deal like that happens they would need to give us about £20m plus Bony for him, that would include the £8m they owe already. Frankly I don't know why the Swans agreed to sell Bony under instalments, it's a ridiculous situation for a club like Man City to force us to give them in effect credit to buy one of our players.
I agree - a straight swap, no way. But if they paid us a cash sum for Ayew plus Bony - a sensible figure, whatever "sensible" is - would you take it?
It's a hard one, money wise It's sensible, but we weaken our team by Ayew leaving, and Bony for me will be no better than him. Remember now he's been a bit part player for City. If it happens we need to bring in another player in. I wonder if his brother could be a replacement? With a better team than Villa supplying he could be an option
