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  1. Beef

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    TURKEY: 62 children being held in a Turkish prison after the failed coup #TurkeyPurge

    https://t.co/O1jcnY9o5c

    https://t.co/RnZc42xHOJ

    Article about students of a military high school who were forced to pose as coupists with empty guns and were detained by the government.

    Also:

    Amnesty International has credible reports that Turkish police in Ankara and Istanbul are holding detainees in stress positions for up to 48 hours, denying them food, water and medical treatment, and verbally abusing and threatening them. In the worst cases some have been subjected to severe beatings and torture, including rape.

    https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/ne...e-allegations/

    Turkey is a no go zone.
     
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    The man is believed to have launched the horrifying attack on members of the public in the town of Reutlingen this afternoon.

    At least one person is dead and two others are injured after a machete-wielding man allegedly attacked passersby on a German street.

    The suspect is believed to have randomly hacked at members of the public in the town of Reutlingen, south of Stuttgart, this afternoon.

    A woman was killed in the horrific attack, while at least two others suffered unspecified injuries, according to local media.

    The man, thought to have been acting alone, was reportedly arrested by police at the scene.


    The motive behind the attack remains unclear, according to Germany's Bild and Sueddeutsche Zeitung newspapers.

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-n...efugee-8485456
     
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  4. Saint Helen

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    Violence begets violence :emoticon-0106-cryin
     
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  5. I Sorry I Ruined The Party

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    Am I the only one who thinks that a lot of this could be avoided without politics, without worrying about religion/race/culture, without even talking about gun/weapon control... but simply by advocating for better mental health awareness in the community and putting some money into this area of the health system?

    Even the police thing in America. You drive around bad neighborhoods where people do not like you, deal with criminals most of the time, or even non-criminals who lose all sense of reason when pulled over... you're going to have problems. It's basically the Stanford Prison Experiment. It only took those guys a week to go crazy. So maybe alter their patrols, or have them take 1 week off every two months for counseling/training/evaluation/whatever.
     
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    As much as I love the NHS, having had a close look at it's geriatric care, I will be seriously considering (on current evidence) the Dignitas route, when I get to a "more mature age".

    16 days ago, my 93 year old dad, had a fall, leaving him with a cut cheek and another cut to the back of his skull.
    After being admitted to hospital, tests revealed that his fall, and previous falls, were almost certainly caused by a "severe fluctuation in his blood pressure", which was a relief because his own GP had been treating him for vertigo, and missing the BP problem altogether.

    However, two days into his stay, whilst they were still doing tests to determine why his BP kept dropping through the floor, he caught a diarrhoea bug, which laid him low and stopped him from eating.
    Several days afterwards, as the diarrhoea was coming under control, he caught a chest infection, which he still has, despite being given various different antibiotics, one being described as similar to Domestos in it's effectiveness.

    I realise, at his age, going into hospital is always going to be risky, but it is so frustrating to see a man, who until the fall, was still capable of looking after himself and walk to the local shops, being reduced to an empty shell of a man who can no longer participate in a "proper" conversation.

    It is also frustrating to see just how poor the treatment has become.
    The family were told that he would have a blood transfusion, during the first week, yet he didn't receive it until 48 hours after we were first told he was having it, and it seems he only had it then because he had family going in and asking why he was still waiting for it.
    Even now, he is supposed to be receiving 1-1 feeding support, but he isn't getting it, so is effectively starving himself, as a result of his inability to feed himself, plus his stubbornness in refusing food. I have managed to get him to drink sweetened tea, my last two visits, so the desire is there, but to help him further, the hospital decided, with his consent, to insert a feeding tube through his nose.
    They fitted that Saturday morning, but needed to do an X-ray, to check it was in the right place, before they could feed him.
    That X-ray didn't happen until late Saturday evening, only to find the tube was inserted incorrectly.
    During the night, my dad pulled the tube out, yet nothing was done to replace it, until it was queried by family.
    It may now be refitted tonight, but will still need another X-ray (which they admit could take up to a day to do) to ensure it is in the stomach and not the lung.
    There doesn't appear to be any urgency, and as a family, we believe this is owing to his age. We also believe, that had no one been visiting and fighting his corner, the level of support he has received, would have been lower than that he has received.

    Continuity of care is something that is sorely lacking and almost every staff member prefaces a response to a question, about his wellbeing, with the phrase "I don't know him well as this is the first time I have met him".
    And, sadly, quality of care could also be called into question, based on the care my dad has received, plus a tale related to me, an hour ago, by one of my brothers.
    Apparently the hospital have been sending out letters, to all staff, instructing them NOT to wear their work uniforms to work, but to change into them when they arrive. The obvious reason for this is to lessen the risk of contamination, leading to infection of patients.
    My brother overheard a support worker, telling a colleague, that she had carried her uniform to work, but had then put it on OVER her regular clothes, that she had worn to work, clearly not understanding the danger she was to vulnerable patients.

    As I have already said, I love the NHS, but when you witness just how broken and disjointed it has become, it is quite frightening.
    Sorry about the rant.
     
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    Training, improving it that is, would make the biggest impact in my view. Police in the UK are given pretty good training overall but it has to cover a lot of areas. I was involved in the late 90s and early 00s delivering mental health training to new police recruits. When I took over the role it consisted of wheeling in a variety of very ill people while saying "that's a schizophrenic, this person has bi-polar". I managed to increase the two hours given for this nonsense to a whole day shift where they would shadow us on the forensic unit, not in uniform, so they could get more of an overview of mental health issues. Police have an important role under the mental health act and should be given the training to do it.

    Resources to Community Mental Health Teams have been reduced over the last 10yrs, as have the ability to provide inpatient treatment when required. Again it's not just about numbers of staff. You need competent people, well trained and supported to do a difficult role.
     
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    Cowards.
     
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    Yes, its completely short sighted, and the issue (individual mental health) will end up costing money further along the line wherever and however that surfaces for each individual. Always saddens me when cuts are made to such services. It's tantamount to neglect. Not hopeful for the near future either.
     
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    It's because mental health is the unseen illness. So authorities don't give a **** about it. My mate has bad depression and anxiety, he has been on ESA for 10yrs. Yet he is trying hard as he can to get a job. He says even if he gets part time job he would be happy as he doubts he could handle a full time one. Yet the Tories have just cut the back to work scheme he is on. Which was helping look for jobs suited to him and his issues. So now he is stuck on his own again. Seeing a person once a month to sign on.
     
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    Got at. Makes it all a farce .... :emoticon-0121-angry
     
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    For those not aware, a Robot Wars is back on TV this evening
     
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    Put off watching Spotlight for a long time, but finally watched it tonight. What an extraordinary film.
     
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    16 year old friend of Munich gunman arrested. Police say he failed to alert authorities he was planning an attack.
     
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    Was a great movie, Michael Keaton very good and the rest of the cast strong too. Extremely well crafted tale of a terrible situation that was eventually blown wide open by proper investigative journalism.
    Top movie :emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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    Can we celebrate? HAs Jonathan Pearce given up football commentary to focus on shouting about remote control cars again?
     
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    The plot was excellently controlled and gave a very detailed account of what happened. Really, really good.
     
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    I watched Everest tonight. Brilliant, scary, moving film.

    Confirmed my suspicions that climbing is basically rubbish as hobbies go too.
     
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    I used to do a bit of climbing, but we're talking a few hundred feet at most up and down cliffs and then going to the pub, sod going 5 miles up a bloody mountain where the weather can kill you.
     
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