I'm glad Barton is off

Let's be honest here fellas. If Barton wanted to stay, really, he would have swallowed his pride, kept his mouth shut and tried to build a better relationship with the board.

Did he do that? Did he even try? No. Instead, he whinged, bitched and moaned about his employers to hundreds of thousands of people on numerous occasions. It doesn't take a genius to work out that Ashley, or any owner, just wouldn't take that sort of ****. Just imagine if a Man Utd player did what Barton did. How do you think Sir Alex Ferguson would react? What about the many other clubs and managers/owners?

The situation is done, and it's the fault of both Ashley AND Barton. Now Barton has had his massive hissy fit at Leeds and lashed out at a few players (if the story is true), he's the culprit of severe dressing room disruption and low morale.

He now has no choice but to leave, and I'll be glad when he does, because if the stories about him are true, the squad (and especially the new lads) won't be able to settle and build a strong team spirit until he's gone. There's no point thinking 'what if'. It is what it is and it won't change. He must go.



Now people worry that he was so vital to our success last season, but let me ask you a question. Barton had creative passing and made frequent playmaker passes last season to help us win points. Name one other midfield player who played frequently last season who could do the same. Nolan? No. Tiote? No. Jonas? No. Alan 'The Mong' Smith? No Ryan 'Tiny Mouth' Taylor? No.

Barton only appeared to be so important because he was the ONLY one who could do it on a consistent basis. He isn't some magical player key to our success. We just had a squad which was thread-bare on creative playmaker-style players, so Barton shone right out.

Who do we have now? Cabaye, Ben Arfa, Marveaux, Gosling, Vuckic, Abeid and so on. All creative players who can provide bucket-loads of creativity which we relied on from Barton so badly last season.

So, while we're weaker with him gone, we can fight on and become far stronger than we were last season. Barton is replaceable, and imo, Cabaye is already better in doing what Barton WAS so vital for.



So don't worry lads. The dynamic of the squad has changed, but it's not the end of the world. Our fighters from last season are going, but we still have a strong squad, we still have long-term Newcastle players to keep the team spirit alive, and we have brand new players who can learn to love the club, love the fans and fight for them every week.

 

Barton was speaking his mind, he doesn't have to keep his mouth shut. He's basically saying what all the fans are saying about Ashley, is Ashley going to ban the fans from games as a punishment?

We had quality on our team last season mate, but Barton proved to be the driving force. 0% win percentage without him.

From the reactions on twitter, all the players were gutted about him being put on a free transfer list. They all seem to respect him.

I want him to stay, just for one more season so we can see what we really will be like without him and if he's still as important to the team as last season. It's too much of a risk getting rid of your two top goals scorers and your player of the season, and just relying on a free transfers and cheap miracles to fill their boots.

We can't afford to let him go just yet, the result could be fatal.

 

Nah he wants to stay but is not being given the chance to. That has brought out the worst in him. Him leaving is dealing with the consequences and not the root of the problem. That being the poor management of players by the board, and poor management of the fans in terms of expectations. i.e. just fess up and say we are cost cutting high earners from the squad to reduce the massive debt levels.

 

Totally agree

 

Also I believe Scholes did a lot worse to Ferguson. He refused to play in a league cup game out of petulance at being left out of the starting line up the previous Saturday, and also believing that the team Ferguson was fielding was basically a reserve side. At the time he found this insulting. Stayed a long time after that though! Good manager of people is Ferguson. Unlike our lot.

 

Does Scholes have the same reputation and temperament as Barton??

 

I agree Chappaz. Faults on both sides but Barton has crossed the Rubicon and there is no going back. He now has to leave for the good of the club.

We cannot afford for a situation to develop where the squad starts splitting into camps for and against him, nor can the club allow him to spread further desent within the squad.

I am also hopeful that we have creative talent waiting in the wings ready to step up!

 

What does reputation have to do with it? If we're going to go purely off reputation then Barton should have been put on a free years ago.

 

No. But we're not talking about that, we're talking about managing people. I can give a better example if you like, a guy who had a reputation as tainted as Bartons. One Eric Cantona. I can go on all day, he's always been able to manage wayward characters of all types of reputation and temperament. Bryan Robson - alcoholic. Paul McGrath - likewise and a bit of a loon to boot. Its called understanding football and footballers.

 

You're a ****ing massive helmet Tash you really are.

He's a player and an employee of the club. He doesn't HAVE to keep his mouth shut, but he will feel the repercussions if he chooses to 'speak his mind'.

What have his Twitter rants achieved? It's made our club into a laughing stock in the national press, it's probably put players off signing for us, and it's put Joey himself on the free transfer list with the club he so desperately wants to stay at.

I didn't say quality. For someone who whinges about their articles never being read, maybe you should read mine properly.

I said creative playmaker-style passing. We had ample quality, but Joey was the only player capable of doing that sort of thing on a consistent basis. Nolan, Tiote, Jonas and all the rest were never known for it.

That's why we had a poor win percentage without him, because he was the only one who could do it, and when he was out, the only person to replace him was some knoblet like Ryan Taylor.

Who? Him and Danny are mates and work together down that side of the pitch. Who else? A few people were shocked, and most of them were youth players.

If he wanted to stay, really wanted to stay, he would do what he could to repair the relationship with the board and try and get contract negotiations going. Instead, he did everything possible which would create further disruption and ensure that he would NEVER receive a new contract offer.

I'm not saying he did it on purpose, but it was frankly moronic decisions from Barton. Don't forget, for all his 'reforming of character' the man had to deal with his anger and stupid decisions for years. That doesn't just go away overnight. For all the intelligence he has, once his temper overflows he makes decisions (like posting on Twitter and throwing strops in the dressing room) which make the situation far, far worse.

 

Berbatov?

 

Have to agree Chappaz. Huge faults on both sides but Barton made zero attempts to rectify his relationship with the board.

 

You're beating your head against a wall Chappaz trying to get through to some people, on this particular topic at least. Which is a shame because I thought that this was a pretty decent article.

 

Undoubtedly that last bit is true Chappaz. He is definetly still battling demons. He will always be an emotional man, its a good and a bad thing. Roy Keane truth be told was a ****ing headcase. You have to manage them slightly differently to other personalities. Antagonising these kind of characters is probably not a wise move.

I honestly think this all comes down to them wanting him off the wage bill as part of their cost cutting plans. They've played him like a fool truth be told because he'd previously had almost total support of the fans. Now we're split right down the middle.

Now you can't just throw Berbatov at me without explaining further?

 

Get a grip

 

Jonas is staying out of it

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agree

 

Why on earth should any one man have exceptions made for him because he's a bit of a temperamental twat. He's a professional footballer for ****s sake who's getting paid 55k+, it doesn't and hasn't taken a genius to work out that bad mouthing your boss, for whatever reason is a stupid move and is bound to end you up down **** creek without a paddle. He's had a **** past, and has "episodes" every now and again that don't help to further his cause as a changed man, honestly some people...

 

Afraid some people are just

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That is why Ferguson is the manager of the best football club in the land and we are not unfortunately. You have to manage these characters. Put more simply, imagine if Man U had never bought Cantona because he was a complete knob jockey?