The EU debate - Part II

She was little more than a stalking horse.

What she did was step forward and provide an alternative to the man who'd been voted down by 172 of the MP's he's supposed to be leading.

I doubt she ever envisaged being the future leader, what's disappointing is that her lead wasn't followed by the more credible candidates, who've all seemingly decided that the current turmoil isnt a prospect that they're prepared to take on.

It's a right Royal ****ing mess.

 

Nah, his rating amongst the populous outside of the labour hardcore is ****ing ****e.

Labour under a life long protestor like Corbyn was always doomed to opposition, as he'd never win over the middle ground that would see the party in power. He's a decent man and I agree with a lot of what he says, but as a leader he's proven himself as ****ing useless, and as a result his own PLP have back balled him, pollictically there's no coming back from that simple fact. If Labour continue down the path of ignoring the ****ing obvious then they'll marginalise themselves for a generation

 

JC will win and Labour will probably split.

So the SNP will end up the official opposition, god help us


In Other news:
IMF ‘clowns’ admit they got it wrong with Brexit doom and gloom warnings after saying the British economy will grow faster than Germany and France.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...itish-economy-grow-faster-Germany-France.html

 

I'm sure the IMF will be devastated to be denounced as clowns by that colossus of international statesmanship, Carswell!

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-growth-since-2012-after-brexit-vote-imf-says

What the IMF actually says is that the UK growth will shrink as a result of Brexit. However, the growth will still be above that of Germany - as it was anyway, before the vote.

 

Britain is still expected to be the second fastest growing economy in the G7 this year – behind the US, despite having its growth forecast for 2016 trimmed by 0.2 percentage points to 1.7%.

The IMF believes that next year the UK will have similar growth rates to Germany – the eurozone economy most affected by the Brexit-induced slowdown – and France. Germany’s growth is now estimated at 1.2% in 2017, a fall of 0.4 points.

 

Custard our growth rate was higher than Germany's before the vote. The fact is our growth rate will shrink as a result of Brexit

The comparison is laughable, anyway. It's like saying, 'OK, we're ****. But they're more **** than we are!" .

 

But still better. So much for all this doom and gloom. Sun is out, all is good, until...

 

Brexit have angered the rest of the world for countries growth rates falling which will be bad news for Britain trying to do any deals ......Deals done will now be on other countries terms as they hold all the cards and where they lose doing cheaper deals through The EU's single market the cost will be put on us which in turn will obviously put prices up. This brexit is falling apart bit by bit every day and why ? Because it was all based on taking back control and border control issues and nothing about what should have been the real issues like the economy and jobs etc.......We are in **** street because whatever deals we do now will significantly cost more.....The PM is going to have to make some serious decisions and come up with some compromise to stop this getting out of control worst than what it is....
The PM's choice of Boris as foreign secretary has had countries around the world scratching their heads as he has insulted most of them and he is not liked and as for David Davies well what can you say, He is the only person in the world who thought we can use the single market on an individual country basis..... It was a bad idea from the start by having no thought of the consequences and no solid plan in place........Boris and those few should have told the truth and we would not be in this mess of uncertainty..

 

BoJo was well liked by of these people (yes he upsets some, but they deserve it) when he was mayor of Londonistan and he is a very capable statesman, also you will find Fox and Davis will be doing most the work with BoJo being just a figurehead.

You really think other (smaller countries) will have the upper hand, you really are deluded.
The UK would only be in **** street if people like you keep talking us down.

 

"Upset some people" is a massive understatement. He is not called Boris the Buffoon for no reason.

 

As you say she was always the stalking horse, no hope of winning, as I think she knew that. It was all just to start the initial chaos and draw the bad press to Corbyn. She must have known that her reputation would get damaged as well and that she had nowhere near the popularity to win the election (I mean she finished 4th out of 5th for the Deputy Leader race for gods sake!). But this allows a candidate to come forward and be presented as the 'unsullied Unity' candidate, a slightly left leaning candidate that they think will appeal to the Grassroots members and convince Corbyn voters, while at the same time being pro-Establishment and big Business that the PLP can get behind. Andy Burnham would be my guess, though Tom Watson could be a possibility, he's recently been given a £200k campaign war chest by Max Mosley.

 

It's laughable for another reason - our growth rate was so high because we've had the longest recovery from a recession in our entire history. While the Germans have already recovered and so their growth has tailed off. They are doing much better than us. Before the vote we were forecast by some economist to be heading towards another recession within 2 years.

Now the IMF has just cut the UKs growth forecast!

 

Hardly. She stabbed no one, the very public stabbing, in the front, of the useless Captain Birdseye lookalike **** was done by 174 of his MPs. The constitutional crisis came about because ex public schoolboy Seamus Milne talked the garden gnome out of resigning despite his obvious inability to lead a dog round a park let alone her majesty's opposition.

 

Tbf she did pretend to have suffered homophobic abuse from Corbyn supporters at a meeting she didn't even attend, she said she'd received threats from Corbyn supporters and had to change a meeting location because of it, something denied by the hotel who said there were no threats, they just didn't want a political event at their hotel, and she said that Corbyn supporters had thrown a brick through her office window when it wasn't her office window the brick came through and no one knows who threw the brick.

Plus she's gone against her own supporters wishes by attacking the democratically elected leader and as a result is likely to face deselection from her CLP.

 

Corbyn was elected by the party membership not the PLP. If they spent more time attacking the opposition than their own leader then the Labour party wouldn't be in the mess that it currently is. Personally I don't want to see another Blairite, austerity sympathising leader of the Labour party. I want somebody who is a proper socialist who will stand up for the working class and stand up to big business.

 

They only way that will happen if for Labour to get rid of most its MPs as they are Blairites

 

Fine, deselect the treacherous MP's who tried to oust their democratically elected leader.

 

Thats all very well, but the UK as a whole are not a socialist country, Foot and Kinnock tried and failed, so why would JC do better?