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Off Topic EU deabte. Which way are you voting ?

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How will you vote in the EU referendum ?

  1. In

    54.1%
  2. Out

    45.9%
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  1. FosseFilberto

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    I think you have placed too much faith in Mr A ... man's a cnut ... we don't need an airport in Dover ffs <doh>
     
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  2. DMD

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    I doubt many believed much from either side. If anyone considered the figure, it's most likely that they'd have just assumed more finance would be available to the NHS, rather than an absolute value. The majority would have just felt happy that we choose.

    The fixation with the amount is much like the insistence it was about immigrants, and much more the position of desperate remainians, than anything of consequence to brexiters.

    It's all irrelevant, we're coming out, and it's that that we need to grasp the opportunities in. This sad and desperate need to rake over coals that never lit in the first place just limits meaningful discussion.
     
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  3. NSIS

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    There's nothing desperate about it.

    It's a plain and simple fact that it was implied that this wildly inaccurate figure could be available to be spent on the NHS.

    The posters have been shown on here enough times!....
     
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    We don't live in each other's pockets. It's what intelligent, independent grown ups do!...

    A bonus would be you beginning to distinguish between your opinions and actual facts!...
     
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  5. Smirnoffpriest

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    Umm if someone says - Vote to do A and B* will definitely happen - and actually puts that in big letters on a bus, then you do that, then they say actually B was never going to happen, and B was proven to be lies, then it is a lie, no matter which Party Sensible way you try and spin it.

    TBH I'd rather believe all the economists, experts and leaders who told us that B was balls before hand than the leader of a party (the Sensible Party) who either has no policies other than one to make the UK similar to the EU, or actually has policies on a blog that reflect the stance of his postings - ie ridiculous.

    * 'A' in this case is to vote to leave. 'B' in this case is that leaving will give the us £350m a week which will be spent on the NHS.
     
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    Plenty of people I spoke either quoted that figure or said that we'd get loads more money from leaving. Total balls, particularly as most of these people seemed to live in the places that are going to lose the most financially from Brexit - ie the poorest areas that received the most EU funding.
     
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  7. DMD

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    They didn't actually say that they'd spend £350 million on the NHS. Look.

    please log in to view this image
     
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  8. DMD

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    the EU funding is OUR money, sent back with strings and baubles attached.
     
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    So, that doesn't imply that it could be spent on the NHS? You must be joking!

    If so, why bother to mention the NHS in the same message about a totally different subject!....
     
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  10. DMD

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    Nope. It was implied by remainians, who seemingly lack comprehension. I've posted a picture of the bus above. They were never in a position to make a claim that it would happen, only to suggest that we'd be better making our own choices. The mischief is/was from remainians.
     
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  11. DMD

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    Because the NHS needs money spent on it, and that money is currently going to the EU.
     
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    It's called spin
     
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    But not that figure, or anything like it! It's misleading, at best. Downright dishonest too!...
     
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  14. DMD

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    And that works from both sides. I think people are bright enough to make their own decisions.
     
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  15. DMD

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    Bollocks.
     
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    It's you that lacks comprehension of anything that doesn't reflect your personal view! <ok>

    It was a dishonest deception. One that was picked up on by those who looked deeper, but taken at face value by the many who didn't.
     
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    Yes, you keep spouting it!...
     
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    Nope. The government choose how much to spend on the NHS based on its priorities, taxation policy and how much debt it's prepared to take on.
    The choices are not EU or NHS. You could argue a straight choice between increasing the inheritance tax threshold and the NHS but that wouldn't reflect the truth either.
     
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  19. DMD

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    You can keep spouting your opinion, it doesn't make it any more a fact. The claim on the side of the bus does not say what others claimed.
     
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  20. DMD

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    Quite right, which is why that's not what I said.
     
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