You don't understand, that's fine, go and support the players. They really need you in such difficult times. It's their wages I worry about too
Wrong. Those choosing not to go are standing up for what they believe in and making a stand. Those against the Allams but are going and going to protest are also standing up for what they believe in and making a stand. Those who are behind the Allams and just don't care what happens to the other fans and the club's history as long as they are watching top class football are slimy, ****ty, disgraceful ****sticks. You are in that latter catergory.
Here's an idea then... the 19 minute and 4 second protests made some noise... How about a 20 minute 10 second protest.. the year they took over..
Just as an aside... I saw Waggy, but I only know that because my Dad tells me I did. So... Idontrememberwaggy
Boycotting games has very little impact. Revenue generated by season ticket sales is now such a small percentage of total revenue, I doubt they'd be even arsed. The only impact it would have would it would be harmful to the team and perhaps how they perform.
People will think we look tin pot. We've already set the tone with an appalling turn out at Wembley for the play off final. People already think we are small time, so I guess it will do little to raise eyebrows if I'm totally honest.
Or we showed how much we care about the long term future of the club by not all being wooed by the offer of a day out at the national stadium, and a boycott of the first game would ram that point home and require the pundits to discuss on national TV the reasons ? (I don't think a boycott would be effectively supported though by the way...but I wish it would)
But that's not what people are thinking when talking about the tv impact. Sky and BT (and/or whoever it is these days) are paying 20 Premier League clubs a ****load of money to broadcast their games. These games are then sold to us private consumers, pubs around the country and broadcasters around the world. They sell the Premier League as the best in the world. They don't want broadcast a sparsely populated stadium from the best in the world league. Hence questions would be asked if that happened. Pressure would be applied. And it just might help resolve this Allam-orientated situation. It all comes down to money. And despite all of Allams riches, he's small fry compared to the TV companies. As you said, it doesn't really affect them fiscally if the stadium is half full. So ask yourself why they're emailing and ringing round to get people to renew their pass.
The reasons behind the lack of attendees at Wembley was well understood and covered by the media, that would be even more clear at a PL game
Indeed. And it's good that those in the know recognise our predicament. Obviously (in reply to glp) there will be many fans of other clubs who think we are tinpot as they are unaware or couldn't care less about our situation. We should know, we have a load of our own...
You seen to be under the impression that if you state enough rimes that the ground will be full it'll eventually come true. You're in ****ing dreamland. The club is on its knees.
What you need think when talking about these potential protests is what will have the most effect? If we simply have boycott, the majority of football fans do not know the ins and outs of our club and will simply take it as us being a poorly supported club and the pundits won't specifically know or mention that it's some sort of protest. Whereas the red card protest worked so well last season because every stand was a sea of red and if the average football fan or member of the media who are unaware of our situation will have to ask what it's all about. I have full respect for any city fans who are boycotting over the Allams, but for those that are still going I think that a protest where you're adding something (the red cards) rather than taking something away (the fans) would be more effective.
It would be great if you could guarantee a full boycott, but sadly there is still an amount who support the Allams no matter what, or enjoy the PL too much. Protests need to be more carefully focused, harder than ever, and impossible to ignore. I think the last 24 hours have ramped it up for everyone, time to respond in kind.
I think mass American flags/apparel, loud chants and boos at home games is a much better form of protest while still galvanising the players on the pitch. It actually shows the Sky audience what the issue is, whereas boycotting just makes people think we're small time and doesn't raise the profile of the issue at hand. American flags clearly indicates everyone's preference for who the owners should be, while chants against the Allams will be heard on the TVs, and will make it very clear how angry we are. I can understand those wanting to boycott, but if they think it'll hurt the Allams in the pocket, they're sadly wrong, and if they think it's a powerful form of protest for the television audience, then they just have to look at how the mainstream viewed our lack of attendance at Wembley. It just simply doesn't get the message across as powerfully as the red card protest did.
