I think that is where you are wrong. Buying expensive players and having the most expensive squad does not equate winning every competition. We were 5th in the league with the 2nd or 3rd most expensive squad. I for one do not expect United to win everything. Competitive yes. The expectation will always be there. not everyone can do a Leicester. Building a winning team with unfancied players is great but how often does that happen? Bringing on your own academy players is even better. The class of 92 was just exceptional. How often do we have the best midfield passer and the best winger of their generation appearing together from our academy? From my point of view too, Pogba at £105m is really expensive and Juventus is taking advantage. But he will make a difference and that's more important than cash in the coffers.
Mignolet was at fault for 48 of those goals, so remove him and we only conceded 2. De Gea saved UTD about 167 goals so you add them and they conceded 217 You do the matths. @Viva_Giggsy Is as deluded as they come.
Yep, Mignolet couldn't help but shoot at the opposition keeper all season letting the opposition counter-attack - Mignolet kept losing the ball in midfield countless times, Mignolet was crap in all areas of defence ................................. Deluded as always, never the team's fault, nothing wrong with Klopp's tactics - always the keeper.
Why is the number of saves mad relevent - the number that matters is goals conceded and yours is higher the Man Utd. If it does matter, how many saves did Mignolet make? Also if all of your problems are down to one player, then isn't it poor management then that Mignolet was playing and also given a new contract?
How can I possibly be wrong to suggest we would be expected to win every competition if we end up spending £200m in one season? Why the hell should we spend that much money if we don't even think it should rightly lead the expectations to winning everything? And last season is exactly why I am tired of seeing money thrown around only to witness abject failure. It clearly shows money is not the secret source but rather good management which we have sadly been missing since Sir Alex called it quit. I actually admire the way City has been quietly going about their business this season so far without crazy talks of insane money. I think they learned from last year. BTW, James Rodrigues is now "apparently" available for £67m and we are linked to him. RM paid £63m for him in 2014 and he has barely lived up to the tag. Now they see the mug in us and want to sell him for more than they paid. Hell fkn no!!! We should put in a take it or leave it offer for £30m. I don't even think we need him.
Latest from this morning: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football...s-and-rumours-live-including-paul-pogba-105m/ Juve braced for departures This news will do nothing to dampen speculation that Pogba is on his way to Old Trafford, possibly RIGHT NOW. Juventus director Fabio Paratici has been speaking in Italy, and has confirmed that there is interest in not only their prized midfielder but also Leonardo Bonucci, who is reported to be the subject of scrutiny from Chelsea. "At Juve, we have Bonucci and Pogba interest from many clubs and are prepared for possible replacements," he said.
That's a bollocks argument. So we should do an Arsenal and spend a decade with no ambition or meaningful success just to pay down debt which doesn't encumber the club? Simple fact is we have the revenue and profits to pay down the debt and buy good players. Over the past three years, despite Moyes and LVG spending (and largely wasting) £300m between them with no meaningful success or CL revenue to show for it, our debt figure has hardly changed at all. Ultimately, the easiest way to service the debt is how SAF did it for eight years - win trophies, qualify for the CL, bring in the crowds and attract sponsors. He did it when the debt was twice as high as it is now, and the club's revenues much lower. Imo Mourinho should be given the same chance to succeed, particularly given how much richer the club is now compared to three years ago (new adidas, Aon, Chevrolet and PL TV deals make us £130m better off than we were in 2013).
Because we spent £145m in 2014/15 and no one realistically expected us to win any competition we were in. Did you expect City to win the CL after they spent £150m last season? Or in the 10/11 season? I agree that good management is the key. But now we have a good manager, who wants to buy a player he believes will be great for us. So I don't see a big problem spending money that we currently have in the bank to buy a player who could help him achieve that. After all, no one quibbled when SAF spent big on Hughes, Pallister, Keane etc. Simple fact is we are not at the same level we were under SAF, and we need to spend money on buying better players to get to the level we want to be at, as we did between 1988 and 1993.
That's not quite the same - how many of those players were world record transfers? Most of them were through smart scouting with reasonable offers rather than chasing superstars with inflated fees. That is the big difference here. Heck, we paid £1.2m for Cantona which was nowhere near the record fee at the time. As for City last year; they were the favorite in most of the competitions that they entered last year, bar Champions League. If they were in UEFA cup instead of CL, they surely would have been expected to win it with what they spent on already strong squad. Last season was an abject failure for them as much as ourselves and not even 4th place finish could disguise that. The value of foolish spending was rightly questioned given how Leicester changed the game. So yes! If we spend end up spending £200m this summer, it would be a failure to not win at least two trophies with the league as number one.
You've more or less made my point there. Foolish spending led to no success and the debt is still sky high. This point was also made in the last Forbes article that of the Top 5 sports team, United carried the most debt. We don't need that debt. And no! It doesn't make us an Arsenal. Arsenal got a stadium for the debt. What exactly did we get for ours? In state of low interest rate, the debt would appear to not be a problem. But through a credit crunch or if continue to miss out on winning, it will start to become a stress point. Smart management, high level scouting and spending wisely does not make us an Arsenal.
I've always said in all this we need to buy a player or two to improve the squad, it's not the spending for me, it's very specific that I do not think that this player is worth the money we are spending. The three you mention were and were no way on earth priced at the grossly overinflated one that Pogba is. We need to buy a player but I am wary of this specific player to the point that he is NOT worth the money being quoted. The market is madly inflated, accepted. The PL has daft money so that ups the price even more, also accepted. Pogba by those tokens is an £100 million player though? No chance. Under no circumstances is he worth the gamble at that price. He just isn't. He simply is not THAT good.
I am coming round to the view that I have to accept that greater, more knowledgeable minds will have considered all aspects of the Pogba transfer and if they consider it a good move - then so be it. We all have a view, but none of us can know all that is/has been going on behind the scenes for the last few months (or more) - evidently Chelsea had a mind to try and lure him to the PL last year so you have to accept that if two major PL clubs have examined the transfer from every angle - ie improvement to the squad, future transfer value, merchandising revenues etc etc - then the player is obviously worth whatever the asking price to those who are making the decision.
Haha coming from you lol. Liverpool will do well to finish top 6 let alone challenge for top 4. People like you need a good beating to knock some sense into.
So your solution would be to not buy Mata, Shaw, Blind, Herrera, Schneidelin, Martial or Darmian and just use that money on paying off the Glazers' debt? That would at least solve the problem, we'd become another Liverpool and wouldn't be able to attract the top players, thus avoiding paying the transfer fee for them
