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Off Topic Sam In Pre-lim Talks With The FA

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  1. Vincemac

    Vincemac Well-Known Member

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    I think the main word in all this crap we are in is
    i think your right we just have to WAIT.
    there is no other option at the moment.
     
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  2. flandersmackem

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    Nightmare scenario for the club. We are being left behind by other clubs. But we are used to being in relegation scraps aren't we.
     
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  3. Brian Storm

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    Why are are own fans obsessed with flushing money down the drain? It not like we're riddled with debt or anything. Oh wait hang on.

    I know we get frustrated and lash out and it's easy when it's somebody else's money, but paying Sam to go and manage England(which we'll be doing if we sack him as we have to buy out his contract) Has to be the only possible way we can make this worse.

    I mean think about it. All we have is our dignity in the face of being ****ed about. How can we make it worse? Pay for the privilege of course. Daft


    @Blunham Mackem Told you this view would catch on with the panic. :p
     
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  4. Brian Storm

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    Doesn't mater compo isn't just based on contract length, we can charge what we want for the inconvenience. Provided Sam has no clause.
     
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  5. Brian Storm

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    If there was a dislike button I'd press it. Can't disagree enough


    If anyone thinks this Transfer window is salvageable if Sam goes there's sore misgivings. We're either asking a manager who's been out of work to identify targets quickly or a manger in work knows his own players and targets to fit his old club. Transfer window is well ****ed now unless Sam stays. Throwing good money at bad will only make things worse and rape us of the last shred of dignity we've got. Paying Sam to manager England and forfiet any compo. It's demented imo.
     
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  6. Brian Storm

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    No mate, reality is we've got no control, and there's nothing we can do to gain it. Sore hard facts. We can do nothing but sit and wait and hope to God the club are using this time to get it's **** together for the next manager.
     
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  7. flandersmackem

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    And why are some of our fans just happy to sit back and watch other clubs strengthen and have a full preseason and we just sit and wait for other to determine our future. I....like quite a few on here am not privileged to know what Sunderland's finances are, but as I have admitted in a later post, I accept we cannot just sack him, but we HAVE to start taking some control, we seem to be lacking in leadership at the very top...not what I expected from Short to be honest.
     
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  8. Brian Storm

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    Who?

    You should know what Sunderland Finances are, we publish them every year. Just a google search away.

    We can't take control. It's out of our hands.
     
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    Maybe the FA are waiting for us to take action to save them paying compen - just a thought like
     
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  10. Tel (they/them)

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    Dunno why you're all fussing so much anyhow, Moyes won't sign anybody no matter how long he's there, he's ****ing useless in the transfer market.
     
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  11. Vincemac

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    I have it from good sources the FA are ready to appoint Steve Bruce as the new England manager.

    Copied fro face book any one else heard out
     
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  12. SAFCDRUM

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    I'd be surprised if facebook got the scoop to be honest.
     
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  13. Teessidemackem

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    If Moyes comes Id put money on Fellaini coming aswell probably on loan.
     
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  14. Commachio

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    Think someone is winding you up.
     
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  15. Disco down under

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    How do you know Ellis hasn't already spoken to managers about taking over?

    We don't need to sack Sam to speak to managers. All it does is ruin the slim chance we have of keeping him, cost us a severance package and cost us our compensation from the FA.

    Sacking him is literally an idiotic idea when we could just interview other managers without sacking him.
     
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  16. Tel (they/them)

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    Until we sign some more muscle in midfield, he'll be going nowhere fast, maybe when Pogba signs he'll be released. Mourinho loves his powerful midfielders and we've not got any aside from him, sadly.
     
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  17. Teessidemackem

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    I didnt realise i thought hed be surplus to requirements. What about Schneiderlin?
     
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  18. Tel (they/them)

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    Morgs will get games for Jose I reckon mate, he's a very tidy midfielder. I doubt Fellaini will get many/any games under JM, but until we sign Pogba it'd be silly to let him go, we're too lightweight in midfield and we'll lose physical battles too often without him.

    Mata and Schweinsteiger are the two we're expecting to leave, plus we'll probably loan out a couple of fringe lads, like Pereira and Januzaj if we can find them clubs.

    Edit: Maybe Ashley Young will go also.
     
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    Here they are - not pretty :emoticon-0104-surpr
    https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/03189630/filing-history
    29/04/2016 Group of companies accounts.
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    All we can do is wait for the FA to make their decision. It would be mad to pay him and his backroom staff off beforehand. I suppose it's Ellis who needs to assess the risks involved. Losing our place in the Premier League is a Major risk as stated above.
     
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  20. Brian Storm

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    Oh look. More pro Sam media propaganda by damaging the competition.

    Sam Allardyce gets England boost after FA are warned about Jurgen Klinsmann's combative nature
    • Sam Allardyce is the favourite to succeed Roy Hodgson as England boss
    • Jurgen Klinsmann and Steve Bruce are also candidates for the job
    • The FA received reports suggesting the German is difficult to work with
    • Former Tottenham striker rumoured to have a rift with US football chiefs
    By SAMI MOKBEL FOR THE DAILY MAIL

    PUBLISHED: 22:36, 14 July 2016 | UPDATED: 08:57, 15 July 2016




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    England managerial hopeful Sam Allardyce’s hopes of landing his dream job have been strengthened after the FA received worrying feedback about fellow contender Jurgen Klinsmann.

    Allardyce has already been interviewed by Dan Ashworth, Martin Glenn and David Gill, the three-man panel in charge of appointing Roy Hodgson’s successor, and is favourite to land the job.

    However, the FA still want to hold formal talks with other candidates, namely Steve Bruce and Klinsmann.

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    Sunderland manager Sam Allardyce is the current favourite to replace Roy Hodgson as England manager

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    FA chiefs have received a damning report on Jurgen Klinsmann but still intend to interview the German

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    SAM ALLARDYCE'S MANAGERIAL CAREER
    Clubs: Limerick, Preston North End, Blackpool, Notts County, Bolton, Newcastle, Blackburn Rovers, West Ham, Sunderland

    Games: 956

    Win percentage: 39%

    But, during their two-week consultation process, FA chiefs were warned about potential difficulties they could face should they appoint Klinsmann.

    Sportsmail understands Wembley supremos have received concerning reports that the German can be difficult to deal with and shows little appetite for compromise.

    Indeed, there have been widespread reports in America, where Klinsmann is in charge of their national team, of a rift between the former Tottenham striker and the US Soccer chiefs in recent months.

    And the FA are aware that Klinsmann’s seemingly combative nature could lead to potential conflict and may not be suited to the holistic approach they have adopted.

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    Allardyce helped Sunderland avoid relegation from the Premier League last season

    Ashworth, Glenn and Gill will have the opportunity to make a more informed decision when they hold face-to-face talks with the 51-year-old.

    But the initial feedback regarding Allardyce is likely to strengthen his position in the race to become next England manager.

    Meanwhile, Bruce returned to England yesterday following Hull’s pre-season training camp in Portugal and will sit down with the FA in the next few days. Hull will not stand in Bruce’s way should the FA make an official approach.

    Whoever replaces Hodgson is likely to include a younger coach in his new-look set-up; Rio Ferdinand, Steven Gerrard and Scott Parker among the contenders for such a role.

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    Hull manager Steve Bruce (left) will sit down with the FA's three-match selection panel later this week

    And ex-captain Gerrard is confident England’s fortunes can improve following the disastrous Euro 2016 campaign, provided they make the right appointment.

    ‘This experience and this hurt, I think, will help all of those players moving forward because they won’t want to experience it again,’ Gerrard said in an interview with Virtual Reality company Laduma.

    ‘They will want to improve and get better, and I think with the right manager and the right coaching staff around this group, they can take it to the next level.’



    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...-boost-pursuit-England-job.html#ixzz4ETnR4mcJ
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