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  1. Brian Storm

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    Wasting my time. forget it. Tell you what though, I don't like my professional opinion being put on the same level as your ridiculous bigoted views of what makes a homosexual. You're taking the piss out of me. I'm off.
     
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  2. Smug in Boots

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    You can't have a professional opinion of Gascoigne, you have guesswork just like me.

    I'm not at all bigoted and thinking Gascoigne is a homosexual doesn't make me so.

    I'm not taking the piss out of Gascoigne, you or anyone else.

    If you think I am you're wrong and I have much more reason to know whether I'm telling the truth than you.

    It's obviously a touchy subject, for you, but you seem absolutely determined to get the wrong end of every stick.
     
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  3. Smug in Boots

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    Here you go mate <laugh>

    "In a 0–0 draw with Wimbledon Vinnie Jones singled him out for attention, and in an incident that would become a much-publicised photograph, Jones grabbed him by the genitals as Gascoigne screamed in agony. Gascoigne subsequently sent Jones a red rose, and the two became good friends."
     
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  4. Tel (they/them)

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    Haha

    That confirms it then!
     
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  5. Brian Storm

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    Yesterday, The Sun printed a photograph of Paul Gascoigne that quickly caught the attention of Twitter. Next to the headline 'AGONY OF SICK GAZZA', the photo showed the visibly ill 49-year old as he as he climbed out of a taxi underdressed to buy some alcohol. It immediately began to circulate online, with jokes firing around the internet at the former England player’s expense.

    Now, on one level this isn’t a surprise. Gascoigne has long engendered a sense of intrusive fascination among the British public, and The Sun has previously come under attack for laughing at unwell sports stars through their notorious 'BONKERS BRUNO' headline.

    But this is 2016. The mental health conversation is supposed to have moved on. We are meant to be in a better place. And besides, just because we expect something shouldn’t have to mean we accept it. You see, this isn’t a mere case of celebrity intrusion. Gascoigne is ill. He has a long history of mental health problems, having been open about his battles with panic disorder, depression and consequential alcoholism.

    Paul Gascoigne talks about his struggles with alcoholPlay!02:49

    So let us be clear at exactly what is happening. A national newspaper has reported the struggle of an ill celebrity and a legion of social media users are now mocking him for exhibiting signs of that illness. Would they be quite so quick to do so if the illness was a physical one? If it was a sports star in a wheelchair, or with MS, or going through chemotherapy? I don’t think so. I certainly think there would be less jokes or pseudo-sympathetic photo-sharing lighting up the Twittersphere.

    We all need to work harder to create a culture where we aren’t ashamed to talk about our healthMatt Haig
    In other words, this isn’t just a problem with The Sun. It’s a problem with society. We do not understand that things like addictions or the life-threatening anxieties behind them are illnesses. And this public shaming isn’t just bad for Gazza. It’s bad for people who suffer with mental health problems generally. I don't think it's hyperbole to call this kind of microscopic interest in the troubles of a former sportsman dangerous, as it can directly make symptoms worse. Mental illnesses are, by definition, illnesses of thoughts, and articles which lower the esteem and ramp up the self-loathing of addicts or depressives do not help. They just feed the cycle.

    Gazza: I'm doing alrightPlay!01:30

    It reinforces stigma, particularly among men, who are the most likely to stay quiet if they suffer from a mental health problem. This is a country, after all, where suicide is now the leading cause of death for men under 50. We know that suicide is largely preventable, as rates vary widely not just between genders but between eras and cultures. But if we are a culture ready to ridicule depressed alcoholics then the rise in both depression and alcoholism will continue, as it is the shame and silence and misunderstanding surrounding mental illness that so often leads people, again particularly men (who are over twice as likely to develop a dependency to alcohol), to self-medicate.


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    Matt Haig CREDIT: ASADOUR GUZELIAN
    As someone who has spent the last two years campaigning for greater mental health awareness, I have heard first-hand from men and women about how hard it was to ‘come out’ about their problems. One thing that makes it easier for them to talk about mental health is if they see other people doing so. Sports stars are perfect examples of this. But we have a long way to go. One in four people suffer from some kind of mental health problem, but many sports stars and other public figures – apparently for good reason, given yesterday’s coverage – feel reluctant to talk about their mental health issues.

    Of course, people have always ridiculed what they’ve feared. But we all need to work harder to create a culture where we aren’t ashamed to talk about our health, because the shame can lead to further harm. We fear the unknown, so the more we talk openly, free from ridicule, the more we know.

    The moral here is that we all need to grow up. We certainly don’t want to help monetize stigma by sharing health-shaming pictures, and we also don’t want to contribute to an atmosphere where people feel they have to ‘man up’. You can’t snap out of any illness. But sometimes, slowly, with careful steps, we can walk towards recovery. We want to make sure we don’t place any stigmatizing obstacles, or lurid headlines, or other toxic mind pollution, in anyone’s way back to life.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/thin...ggle-is-not-entertainment-mocking-him-only-a/
     
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  6. Smug in Boots

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    The question is ........ what is the mental illness Gascoigne is suffering from?

    Can you say?
     
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  7. Brian Storm

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    Hard to tell without another assessment from a professional and the results going public, the symptoms he's displayed and spoke of are evident in many many types of mental illness.

    It's like asking what's wrong with this man?

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    Yep his lungs are ****ed. But that doesn't tell us whats wrong with him. Could be Pheumonia, Lung cancer, Chronic Pulmonary disease, Atelectasis, Asbestosis or Emphysema. He could even be making a meal of Bronchitis

    Can you tell me what this man has got? Or is it like any illness where symptoms are similar? It needs investigation to diagnose as even though they effect the same organ, they each need their own treatment plan. Mental health is no different. So unless somebody on here is a specialist doctor with access to gazza for a sustained period of evaluation, he won't be diagnosed on here.
     
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    I could fake mental illness but not lung cancer ....... that's the difference.

    You, and many others, keep insisting Gascoigne is seriously mentally ill.

    So, what is his illness?
     
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  9. Commachio

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    After reading in dribs and dabs.


    I will still remember gazza for that goal againsy scotland. And probably the best english footballer for decades.

    He maybe a ****. He may well have mental problems. He has done allsorts, not least the Raul Moat epidode.


    But what a player.
     
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  10. Tel (they/them)

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    I've gone ahead and fixed that one for you mate, it's not my forte but it had to be done.
     
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    <laugh>. You and Paul Scholes.
     
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  12. Tel (they/them)

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    <laugh> It's always best to stick to facts when they're available mate.
     
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    Iyooc!
     
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  14. Tel (they/them)

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    IMPOOC
     
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  15. Commachio

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    It is when its ubiased<laugh>
     
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    O!
     
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  17. Tel (they/them)

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    Me, biased? No. It was a close contest, I assessed both players on their individual merits and achievements and come to the conclusion that, Scholes was in fact, lightyears better.
     
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  18. Commachio

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    <laugh>. Bollocks.
     
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  19. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    We can't have opinions mate, this is not a democracy.

    I'm afraid this subject is not open for debate.

    As you were.
     
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  20. Commachio

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    But



    But



    But









    Viva la revolution





    You are wrong.
     
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